Wallpaper Pasting Machines

interiorpaintdecorating · Sun Nov 08, 2009 9:30 pm

I have heard various comment’s over the years regarding pasting machines such as, they are too much agro, to expensive, there messy, and are they any good.
Well I can only tell you of my experience with the one I have.
Back in 1997 I had a large contract with lots of paperhanging to do, and was in the decorators merchants where they had a top of the range beeline pasting machine.
I asked the manager behind the counter how much it was, he said that they are £300.00 normally but this one has slight shop damage to it, so make me an offer. The damage was very minimal all that was wrong with it was the two plastic adjustment controls were broken, so it meant I had to use the brass control behind the plastic and have no numeric info on my controls, which really was no big deal.
So I offered him £ 100.00 and he said OK, so I said, but I want a new spatula as well, and he said ok, so I am on a roll now, and said you might as well throw in one of them aprons, which he agreed to do.
So I walked out with £315.00 of goods for £100.00 and felt quite good about things as I saved my self £215.00.
The next day I went in to work and set my pasting table up with my new pasting machine on top of the table and was given some funny looks by the other decorators as none of them had ever seen a pasting machine and only one of them had ever heard about them.
I was asked how much that cost, does it work, and is it any good.
Well prior to me using this machine I was hanging 12 rolls of paper a day at a rate of £10.00 per roll and earning myself £120.00 a day as were most of the other decorators.
The paper I was hanging was a washable plain, no match contract paper so I fed the whole roll through the machine and folded it concertina fashion, and then another Roll and allowed to soak. Well that took me less than 2minutes to have enough paper pasted to hang 8 drops, which I new put me on a winner. I then put the first roll on top of one of my tool boxes witch stands 2 ft of the ground and just pull the paper up the wall, spatula the paper on, trim off the bottom then move the tool box along and repeat.
At the end of the day I had no back ache like I usually did through leaning over the table, as with this machine you just pull the paper through with a straight back, or may be it was the fact that I had hung 22 rolls of paper and earned a extra £100.00 more than I did the day before.
The only problem I had with it to start with was, the paper veering off to one side of machine and then not applying adhesive to that side of the paper, but after using for a little while I got the hang of applying more tension to the opposite side of the roll to bring the paper back central again.
As well as being extremely fast and curing my bad back, it was very clean to use and a joy to work with. Even at £300.00 it was worth its weight in gold.
I still have my machine and use it from time to time and would advise anyone who is thinking of buying one to buy one.

Hope you find my painting tips helpful,

joe jb · Post by **joe jb** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 12:09 pm

fordy · Post by **fordy** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:58 am

I dont see the logic in pasting 8 drops in one go.

your joints must look really p*ss poor, paper is drying at different times.

Some are up some still soaking, sounds like a recipe for disaster to me.

interiorpaintdecorating · Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:24 pm

Hi fordy just to clarify things for you as to why i pasted 8 lengths at a time. And i will type it in slowly for you to able to keep up

the job this day was lots of bedrooms with just 1 wall in each room to paper and put a border on all the way round. This feature wall was straight no windows or doors and about 8 drops each wall.
I feed the complete roll of paper through without cutting to length and fold concertina fashion and put on my box ready to hang. that takes me literally no more than 2 mins. so while that is soaking i paste another roll that takes another 90 seconds -2mins. when the 1st 0ne is ready which now has been soaking for a bout 4 mins i hang , and by pulling up consertina fashion from my box takes me approx 10 mins to hang and then my second roll is ready

as for joints being p.sspoor Y would they.I have started my own web site up and will be puting videos on there in the future and i wll show how the machine helps and how to use.and im not selling these machines by the way. when you come to papering by a window or door and coming to a corner then i wouldnt have as much paper soaking and also have some cut to length

there are also other post on here by others abot pasting machines some saying that the dear ones are the nuts and the cheap ones are pony have a look

hope this helps you but then again you used to put pva in your paint as i read in one of your coments

inverdecor · Post by **inverdecor** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:14 pm

I;ve been using my standard pastemaster for about a year and half now although I first used one about 20 years ago, we were on a renovation job 20 years ago working for a large glasgow firm, the other guys laughed at me and my pal the first day we arrived and met them, they werent laughing at the end of the day when we had practically papered a two bedroom flat, they couldnt believe it., and as it was paid by the flat we made a few bob over that year

Anyway bought another one last year and wouldnt be without it, saved me a fortune on time alone

reward pgm · Post by **reward pgm** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:19 pm

never thought much of machines I thought they were a gimmick but if the experts use them they can't be all that bad. Keep up the good informative posts.

paintycait · Post by **paintycait** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:41 pm

Like Inver I first used one over 20 years ago and since we have been doing a fair bit of papering...especially lining...and because of the stupid construction of pasting tables, my back-ache is back. Was checking out the cost of these just the other day and wondering if a better table was just the answer or if we buy one of these rather paltry looking Beeline things. Have to say I really want to get one but I am disappointed in the shallow tray for paste in these Beeline ones. The ones I used as a youngster had deep deep trays, took a lot of paste. They were German.

There was a pasting machine way back...40/50 odd years ago made by skarston (same people who made the red scrapers). Their machine sat next to the wall...you pulled the paper through the machine and straight onto the wall...you actually had to load the roll onto a spindle. No soaking there!!!

fordy · Post by **fordy** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:05 am

******* wrote:Hi fordy just to clarify things for you as to why i pasted 8 lengths at a time. And i will type it in slowly for you to able to keep up
the job this day was lots of bedrooms with just 1 wall in each room to paper and put a border on all the way round. This feature wall was straight no windows or doors and about 8 drops each wall.
I feed the complete roll of paper through without cutting to length and fold concertina fashion and put on my box ready to hang. that takes me literally no more than 2 mins. so while that is soaking i paste another roll that takes another 90 seconds -2mins. when the 1st 0ne is ready which now has been soaking for a bout 4 mins i hang , and by pulling up consertina fashion from my box takes me approx 10 mins to hang and then my second roll is ready as for joints being p.sspoor Y would they.I have started my own web site up and will be puting videos on there in the future and i wll show how the machine helps and how to use.and im not selling these machines by the way. when you come to papering by a window or door and coming to a corner then i wouldnt have as much paper soaking and also have some cut to length
there are also other post on here by others abot pasting machines some saying that the dear ones are the nuts and the cheap ones are pony have a look hope this helps you but then again you used to put pva in your paint as i read in one of your coments

Glad youve got your own website lmao!! Thats always a sign of a good tradesmen. LOL

Now you have explained yourself somewhat it does make a tad more sense.

Personally hang expensive paper and wouldnt feel comfortable pasting 8 drops in one go.

I am allowed an opinion!

joe jb · Post by **joe jb** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:43 am

everyone has different ways of doing things! i'll certainly try a beeline one day soon

interiorpaintdecorating · Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:24 pm

what is your problem fordy are you a short man with the appropriate syndrome by any chance.
as far as having a site means you cant be a good tradesman well thats your opinion, but in future if u cant add anything positive to a post then please dont make bitchy comments about my standing as a tradesman as u dont even know me.

P.S all the best with your paint and PVA concoction..... you may want 2 get it patented

Post by **ultimatehandyman** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:28 pm

******* wrote:what is your problem fordy are you a short man with the appropriate syndrome by any chance.
as far as having a site means you cant be a good tradesman well thats your opinion, but in future if u cant add anything positive to a post then please dont make bitchy comments about my standing as a tradesman as u dont even know me.

P.S all the best with your paint and PVA concoction..... you may want 2 get it patented

Not only do you come on here and paste articles from your website, you then decide to insult the regular members. It's quite clear that you have joined with only the intention of posting links back to your site ( I am sure the mods have removed a link already)

inverdecor · Post by **inverdecor** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:43 pm

Fordy I dont agree with the way the other lad has been putting his words but can I ask you feel you cant paste 8 lengths in one go and why having a website is laughable,I frequently paste six or seven lengths in one go depending on the wallpaper and also have a website

and I do consider myself a good tradesman

Glad youve got your own website lmao!! Thats always a sign of a good tradesmen. LOL

Now you have explained yourself somewhat it does make a tad more sense.

Personally hang expensive paper and wouldnt feel comfortable pasting 8 drops in one go.

feva · Post by **feva** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:03 pm

ultimatehandyman wrote:
******* wrote:what is your problem fordy are you a short man with the appropriate syndrome by any chance.
as far as having a site means you cant be a good tradesman well thats your opinion, but in future if u cant add anything positive to a post then please dont make bitchy comments about my standing as a tradesman as u dont even know me.

P.S all the best with your paint and PVA concoction..... you may want 2 get it patented
Not only do you come on here and paste articles from your website, you then decide to insult the regular members. It's quite clear that you have joined with only the intention of posting links back to your site ( I am sure the mods have removed a link already)

done the same here http://*****/decoratingforum/

fordy · Post by **fordy** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:15 pm

inverdecor wrote:Fordy I dont agree with the way the other lad has been putting his words but can I ask you feel you cant paste 8 lengths in one go and why having a website is laughable,I frequently paste six or seven lengths in one go depending on the wallpaper and also have a website and I do consider myself a good tradesman

Glad youve got your own website lmao!! Thats always a sign of a good tradesmen. LOL

Now you have explained yourself somewhat it does make a tad more sense.

Personally hang expensive paper and wouldnt feel comfortable pasting 8 drops in one go.

Hi inver,

My point is just because you have a website doenst make you any good.
It is not a gage of quality.

From what youve posted inver i know you know your onions.

Maybe this fella does too, i dont know and dont really care,lol

My logic on pasting 8 drops is that they will have soaked at different times.

You paste 8 drops in 2 mins according to superdec. Fair enough

You wait a further 2 3 mins for first piece to soak, now all pieces have soaked roughly 5 mins. If were talking a flat wall no sockets switches or cutting then process wil obviously speed up and my hypothesis isnt really as applicable, as your hang the paper quicker

How long does it take you to hang first 2 drops say 2 mins so your 3rd and 4th pice has been soaking for 7 mins and so on.

By the last drop your last 2 drops would have soaked for 11 mins.

This will make matching more diffficult as paper has soaked more also when matching it pullls more and stretches the paper.

Do you see my drift now m8ty.

If your hanging lining paper or a paper with no match then crack on.

fordy · Post by **fordy** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:27 pm

******* wrote:what is your problem fordy are you a short man with the appropriate syndrome by any chance.
as far as having a site means you cant be a good tradesman well thats your opinion, but in future if u cant add anything positive to a post then please dont make bitchy comments about my standing as a tradesman as u dont even know me.

P.S all the best with your paint and PVA concoction..... you may want 2 get it patented

P.V.A was a genuine mistake which i had ignorantly inherited from some 1 else.
Did you know that people used to believe smoking was good for you,lol

I hope you understand the anallergy.

Wish i had enough time to post my views on several sites.

Next year i am going to uni to study Bsc Economics and Accountancy so you questioning my intelligence is humerous to say the least.

I have been a decorator for over 15 years but alas lost interest in it, due to several factors whcih i have discussed in full in different posts.

I have never had to wallpaper on a price, paper to expensive! Always had the savvy to work on a day work basis.

I wish you all the best in your future work and internet trollery.