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Hello

Posting in several forums for as many opinions as possible!

We currently have two bedrooms and are are considering a loft conversion. We can create a reasonably sized (approx 3.5m2) third bedroom without creating a dormer window but only if we use an alternate tread staircase, like this:

www.stairplan.com/spacesaver.htm

The building control adviser has said that this staircase is acceptable. However both him and a couple of builders say that this staircase could put off potential purchasers, when we come to sell our property.

So my question is, would this be enough to put you off buying a house, if there was an alternate tread staircase going up into an extra bedroom in the loft? Obviously we have a normal staircase going from the ground floor to the first floor where the two original bedrooms and bathroom are.

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Personally, Yes it would put me off.

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littlevet1 woud you buy a house like that when onedown thestreet has a conventional flight of stairs to the loft?
people dont like unusual stuff, will it be dangeros can you get furniture up and down stuff


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It'd put me off too.


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It depends how much I could knock off the purchase price :-)


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Depends what was up there. If it was basically just a spare room that would be used rarely as say a sewing room, or for storage, then no I don't think it would put me off. If it was an essential bedroom/office that was going to be used multiple times a day, then I would not like it.


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They're not nice things to have to use regularly, especially if you usually set off on the other foot.

The first one I ever saw was in a mews house in Kensington,it was almost certainly original to the building, it was very steep, and the treads were a complete taper from one side to the other, like a winder but much narrower, about 6" on the wide side and 2" on the narrow side.

The modern ones all seem to have the paddle type treads but they're no better for using.

It would have to be absolutely the only downside in a house for me to buy it, and even then I'd think long and hard and be looking elsewhere in the meantime.

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heeelllooo and welcome littlevet1 :welcome: :welcome: :welcome:
i would treat it as 2 beds and utility /small study as its use is very limited
maybe great as a hobby room
asking on forums is actually fairly pointless as local conditions will dictate how desperate people are and what price they are prepaired to pay
but asking local estate agents will be quite useful

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I know the building inspector I used a few years ago wouldn't allow that sort of staircase. He also said that the fire service hate them as they are so dangerous.

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The building regs must be slack where you stay,no way would that be deemed acceptable in a room in Scotland. You could use it for loft access but it wouldn't meet building standards for a habitable room.


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Hundreds upon hundreds of people die every year from falling down stairs, figures I found from 2011 were 655. With those type of stairs you've got to think that you're increasing the risk beyond anything that would be acceptable. Safety first, convenience a bit further down the line. If I were looking at buying a house with those type of stairs in it I'd either insist they were changed or a deal done regarding price to amend.


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You think that's bad. I have been to a house that has a spiral one. Its terrible. And yes, you have to start on the "right" foot, and I come down it backwards.

You should have one of these.

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Down side is you can't go up it, but coming down is great fun.

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Thanks for all the replies!

Sorry I made a mistake in the first post- the room would be 3.5x3.5m so just over 12m2, not 3.5m2.

Our building inspector has said they would be OK.

Still, the concensus seems to be that these stairs aren't very popular!

Thanks for your opinions, much appreciated.


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littlevet1 wrote:
Thanks for all the replies!

Sorry I made a mistake in the first post- the room would be 3.5x3.5m so just over 12m2, not 3.5m2.

Our building inspector has said they would be OK.

Still, the concensus seems to be that these stairs aren't very popular!

Thanks for your opinions, much appreciated.


I think the building inspector is talking pish. I'd like to see evidence these would be deemed acceptable in anything but a loft for storage.


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steviejoiner74 wrote:
littlevet1 wrote:
Thanks for all the replies!

Sorry I made a mistake in the first post- the room would be 3.5x3.5m so just over 12m2, not 3.5m2.

Our building inspector has said they would be OK.

Still, the concensus seems to be that these stairs aren't very popular!

Thanks for your opinions, much appreciated.


I think the building inspector is talking pish. I'd like to see evidence these would be deemed acceptable in anything but a loft for storage.


dont know where or when i heard it but my very vauge recollection is not ideal but may be permitted to a single room only if the only viable solution :dunno: :dunno:
but as i say dont know where dont know when ......... :lol:

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