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I've recently purchased my first property and getting together a list of things I'm looking to change.

I'd like to upgrade the staircase banister as it currently has dated looking plank/panel instead of a regular rail and spindle. Been looking up options but figured I should first check how much work is involved and an estimated cost, as it may have to be something I put off for a bit as it's not really an essential project, more cosmetic.

Hopefully I can upload photographs of what I have just now, going upstairs and onto landing, I'd welcome any advice or ideas on whether its a big job or very expensive.

I did briefly look at B&Q website and saw complete kits for around £250.

Thanks for any info and advice.


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Not an easy job; one that I would recommend that you get a proper time served and recommended local carpenter in to sort out.

probably nearer £2000 than a kit from B & Q..

get 3 quotes and not from check-a-trade.

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wine~o wrote:
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Not an easy job; one that I would recommend that you get a proper time served and recommended local carpenter in to sort out.

probably nearer £2000 than a kit from B & Q..

get 3 quotes and not from check-a-trade.


Whoa that's a lot more than I had bargained for. Just to be clear, that estimate is just for the spindles, handrail, newels etc and not to replace the whole staircase treads and risers?


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wine~o wrote:
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Not an easy job; one that I would recommend that you get a proper time served and recommended local carpenter in to sort out.

probably nearer £2000 than a kit from B & Q..

get 3 quotes and not from check-a-trade.


Whoa that's a lot more than I had bargained for. Just to be clear, that estimate is just for the spindles, handrail, newels etc and not to replace the whole staircase treads and risers?


I am talking a "guesstimate of labour" for fitting... depending on where you are.

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OK thanks, I'm in Fife, Scotland if that makes any significant difference.

Probably a project I will budget for over the next year as it's not at the top of my list for now.

Should have bought a bungalow :lol:



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I faced a very similar project 20+ years ago, as a keen DIY'er on a budget, I contacted a company called Richard Burbridge, they asked me to give them details of how many stairs, bends, landings etc etc, and sent me a plan, quote and fitting instruction, all put together with concealed brackets, rather than mortice and tennon joints, and its all still standing, quickly googled Richard Burbridge before posting and they are still out there, so might be worth a look :dunno:

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i just finished a glass balustrade job today. it is in an upstairs flat so nothing on the actual stair part. just on the landing. it consisted of 1 oak newel post. 1 half newel, handrail, base rail and 1 full and one half newel cap. and a pigs ear handrail up the stairs too on the other side. it also obv had the sheet of glass aswell. there was approx £540 in materials on that job. labour was £480

obv that was in oak. it would have been considerably cheaper in pine like


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that stair will need 2 or 3full newels 1 half newel 2 string caps 2 handrails about 35-40 spindles
remember no gap greater than 100mm sphere between spindles or any other gap so about 8-10 every metre

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never thought about this last night. i recently priced up a job replacing newel posts and spindles on a more complicated set up than this. Ranch style like yours but in a victorian terraced house. stairs up. half landing then return and more stairs but only 4 or 5 steps. then along the landing for a couple of meters and a return to the wall. all the stringers are open stringer so short spindle long spindle short spindle long spindle etc etc all the way up the stairs.

i priced it how it had been originally as best i could however could only get away with minimum 2 newel posts not one like the original stairs would have had. stair parts cheapest i found was about £650 though i had a couple of manufactured parts like the 90 degree turn etc.

some fella is doing the job all in for £850 with 5 newel posts which i thought would look rough as hell like. but never mind i guess


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propercopperkettle wrote:
OK thanks, I'm in Fife, Scotland if that makes any significant difference.

Probably a project I will budget for over the next year as it's not at the top of my list for now.

Should have bought a bungalow :lol:


:welcomeuhm:

StevieJoiner is in Fife too. Since you cannot PM him I will give him a heads up in case he can make any local suggestions to you. Errrm, you bought a house and it is the staircase that bothers you, errrmmm yes well :wink:



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Where about in fife are you mate? I’m totally chocka block but I could maybe put you onto someone depending on where you are in fife.

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Revisiting as I am now ready to start work on this. Have ordered in the newels and spindles required, rails etc

So upon investigation the bottom newel isn't fixed into the floor joist as I thought it might be. I think the string is housed inside the bottom of the newel so I don't want to go ripping it out as I'm not entirely sure what else is keeping the string in place. So my plan was to cut the newel off at an angle allowing this stump to remain with string intact. Photo attached.

I got complete newels for top and bottom so they are long enough to go through floorboards and be anchored into cement using a zip bolt. My plan is to place this newel to the right of the cut off section. This enables me to run the baserail from new newel upwards to where it will reach the halfway wall (see previous photos further up)

I'd welcome any suggestions at this point, particularly regarding that existing newel and if the string and staircase would be compromised by me getting rid completely. Happy to leave as much there as need be and work around the design I have to facilitate that.

Thanks in advance.


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propercopperkettle wrote:
OK thanks, I'm in Fife, Scotland if that makes any significant difference.

Probably a project I will budget for over the next year as it's not at the top of my list for now.

Should have bought a bungalow :lol:


I'm a bit west from you and getting quotes for a full staircase and fitting just now.

Up here I have found joiners to be around £200 to £300 a day locally (or more if they are a big name (from Edinburgh!) if you feel you are out of your depth!


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