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I've got some external UPVC windows to paint from white to anthracite grey.

I'm going to use zinsser 123 and then two coats of zinsser allcoat exterior.

Internally I'd say the 123 is the important coat and then you can paint over that with anything really.

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You shouldn't need the 123 under the Allcoat mate as apparently it's the same bonding resin in both.
I was just going by what they specify on the app.

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It's what they told me on the phone..... classic!


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:dunno: regardless I'd use a bridging primer....

@ OP 1-2-3- always looks shite as it's not a covering coat. one or two coats of your chosen finish should have a smile on your face.

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:dunno: regardless I'd use a bridging primer....

@ OP 1-2-3- always looks shite as it's not a covering coat. one or two coats of your chosen finish should have a smile on your face.



Many thanks it is reassuring to hear!

What would you suggest to apply in order to reduce any brush strokes on the final coat? I was thinking maybe tiny roller or a mini sponge pad? I want it looking as close to upvc white as possible


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What would you suggest to apply in order to reduce any brush strokes on the final coat? I was thinking maybe tiny roller or a mini sponge pad? I want it looking as close to upvc white as possible


Keep the room cold(er), use a good soft synthetic brush, get the brush wet before you start and shake the water off it, don't overbrush by trying to finish off in one coat less. Start by painting the less visible windows to get the practice in.



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I have now completed 2 coats of bullseye 123.

Can I follow up with dulux trade satinwood?

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I have now completed 2 coats of bullseye 123.

Can I follow up with dulux trade satinwood?


DIYer here and completely unfamiliar with Dulux speak. Is your dulux trade satinwood water based or oil/solvent based? If it is the latter, forget about wetting the brush. The only catch with it is that it will yellow sooner rather than later unless you got plenty of light (and we don't have enough during winter months, let alone in a darker room). You will probably get a better finish with it but I don't think many people here would suggest you use an oil based paint. Also, if it is oil based, one coat per day if not per two days.


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Two days? Wait till VOC 2020 hits. It'll be a week between coats. :mrgreen:

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OchAye wrote:
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I have now completed 2 coats of bullseye 123.

Can I follow up with dulux trade satinwood?


DIYer here and completely unfamiliar with Dulux speak. Is your dulux trade satinwood water based or oil/solvent based? If it is the latter, forget about wetting the brush. The only catch with it is that it will yellow sooner rather than later unless you got plenty of light (and we don't have enough during winter months, let alone in a darker room). You will probably get a better finish with it but I don't think many people here would suggest you use an oil based paint. Also, if it is oil based, one coat per day if not per two days.
It's a water based product so no issues with solvent

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I have now completed 2 coats of bullseye 123.

Can I follow up with dulux trade satinwood?


DIYer here and completely unfamiliar with Dulux speak. Is your dulux trade satinwood water based or oil/solvent based? If it is the latter, forget about wetting the brush. The only catch with it is that it will yellow sooner rather than later unless you got plenty of light (and we don't have enough during winter months, let alone in a darker room). You will probably get a better finish with it but I don't think many people here would suggest you use an oil based paint. Also, if it is oil based, one coat per day if not per two days.
It's a water based product so no issues with solvent

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Pssst :-) Read here https://www.duluxdecoratorcentre.co.uk/product/paint/interior-trim/satin/. The one you mentioned I read is solvent based ... the other one that you did not mention (the quick dry version) is the water based one.

Jumping elephant man who responded above I think has said he likes Armestead quick dry satin, just to confuse you.

BTW. I am not clever although I would like to think so. I have made the mistake with the two dulux paints and someone here picked it up ;-)


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You are correct! it's the quick dry so water based thank god! I suppose the only thing I wondered is it's not being painted on wood or metalImage

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So I also bought some Bedec Multi Surface Paint today too, as I'm not sure whether this or Satinwood would be better for finish?

I also got a decent brush, I got a Wooster silver line, so hopefully the job should go ok!



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sounds like a good plan let us know how it goes

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So I also bought some Bedec Multi Surface Paint today too, as I'm not sure whether this or Satinwood would be better for finish?


Why not try both paints each in a different room, two coats and come back and tell us? Just a thought :-)


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Well there is an idea! I just keep thinking the satinwood will look smoother for some reason!!

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Whichever paint you can lay on thicker, brush the least, and does not run will probably look the best.


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