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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 6:57 pm 
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I'm an apprentice carpenter and joiner. Just about to buy my first No 4 plane. People say for about £50 I can get a Stanley which are the best for there price but I see so many other makes with good reviews that are a 3rd of this price. There's Draper, Silverline, Faithfull, Rolson and Irwin. So far I have bought tools from all these manufacturers and are impressed but I want a good smoothing plane and don't want to spend too much on one. Can anyone give me some advice


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There are at least 2 on that list that I would avoid like the plague...Silverline and Rolson..

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50 years ago I'd have recommended a Stanley Bailey as a perfectly satisfactory smoothing plane, it's what I bought, I still use it.

I don't know if they are still as well made, but if you were to look on ebay and find one with a wooden handle it will be of a similar vintage, (plastic handles now - they get a bit sweaty in the hand, long-term).

Marples or Record from the same era will do just as well.

One thing I've had to do with all of my larger planes is to open out the rear of the throat with a file to enable the frog to sit flush with the throat, it's worth looking at even if you buy a second-hand one, not everyone will have done it.

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:withstupid: buy a 2nd hand one off eBay. Chisels with Sheffield steel are loads better as well,only found 2nd hand now. The irwin marples stuff now is rubbish compared to the older tools.

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www.festool.co.uk

Look under planer section :thumbleft: :lol:



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i got a stanley 4 1\2 of ebay ages ago. deffinately worth looking at. slightly larger than a number 4 but they feel better in ya hand. or atleast i prefer it.

think i paid about £12 or so. wooden handle and canny old.

as above i replaced all my irwin marples chisels with sheffield marples chisels. much better.

steer well clear of silverline stuff. worst stuff in existence its absolute crap



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Brought my stanley plane 10 years ago second hard it's probably 30 years old

Unless you pay a lot of money for a new plane I'd buy second hand

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This sounds ridiculous but I have a silverline block plane (oh the shame!) it's better than the irwin one I have. £11 well spent :lol:


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Irwin planes,chisels and drill bits are Chinese junk!! Fooling people with the marples brand they bought.

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I bought a set of marples chisels last year no to shabby got some old ones in the garage that are better though.


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Ferny1 wrote:
I'm an apprentice carpenter and joiner. Just about to buy my first No 4 plane. People say for about £50 I can get a Stanley which are the best for there price but I see so many other makes with good reviews that are a 3rd of this price. There's Draper, Silverline, Faithfull, Rolson and Irwin. So far I have bought tools from all these manufacturers and are impressed but I want a good smoothing plane and don't want to spend too much on one. Can anyone give me some advice



Is Draper a good No 4 plane


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I have a Stanley plane that is over 30years old. The steel is so superior on these older manufactured planes and the blade still cuts with that lovely 'swish'. It looks a bit battered and scratched but it is the one to have. Try and source an older one if you can. A Clifton plane will cost £250 and this is probably on a par with the old Stanley planes see http://www.toolnut.co.uk/products/plane ... Plane.html

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I've got a Faithful one. It's does me for hobby use. Copes well on hardwoods.

A friend of mine loves restoring planes, picks up some beauties at car boot sales. Usually for no more than a pint. Bit of fetteling, a sharpen and away they go.

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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Stanl ... 3f34566db7

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BOXED-ORIGINA ... 35d5152f1b

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Stanley-Baile ... 233868e041

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Stanley-plane ... 5406af6c01

i always carry a hand plane and a block plane my block plane is a stanley, but there is better out there.

my power plane is a bosch http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BOSCH-GHO-31- ... 5afec12cef same as that one. but its old and ive just had to have the bearings replaced. when i have some spare coin im gonna get a festool planer to go with it and sorta retire the bosch one a bit


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Ferny1 wrote:
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I'm an apprentice carpenter and joiner. Just about to buy my first No 4 plane. People say for about £50 I can get a Stanley which are the best for there price but I see so many other makes with good reviews that are a 3rd of this price. There's Draper, Silverline, Faithfull, Rolson and Irwin. So far I have bought tools from all these manufacturers and are impressed but I want a good smoothing plane and don't want to spend too much on one. Can anyone give me some advice



Is Draper a good No 4 plane


Draper do some decent tools, definitely more trustworthy than Silverline. Is it normal Draper or Draper Expert?


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