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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:18 am 
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As the title suggests really.

I like to buy my own water based primer/undercoat and satin from dulux (trade)
I’ve found it’s pretty decent as long as it’s left to cure properly and the customers tend to enjoy it knowing the brand name.

I like to buy it my self and then roughly judge how much I’m going to use on each job and incorporate that in to the price. Sometimes I win, sometimes I lose.
But I can at least go to sleep knowing white woodwork will be white.

I fancy a change. I’ve heard raving things about sikkens ribbon bl but the product is being discontinued and more than likely rebranded in a dulux trade tin.

Which indoor and outdoor satin are the guys on the forum using these days?


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Armstead QD satin is brilliant gear.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 12:17 pm 
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Agreed I do enjoy qd armstead. I’m using some today actually

What’s your outdoor preference?

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Outdoors, I'd be hard pushed not to use Jotun Demidekk.

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Feel like such a let down I’ve never heard of the sodding brand


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Outdoors, Zinsser Allcoat exterior satin, lovely stuff.
Indoors, Crown trade satin, covers great and stays white for years despite being oil based.


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Zinsser Allcoat is nice stuff to apply. :thumbright:

Butinox Futura is also a good un.

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You can't really argue with Leyland Trade solvent based satinwood especially given its price point.


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Water based Benjaminn Moore Advance satin


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Armstead QD satin is brilliant gear.


Thanks for the recommendation. I haven't tried that yet, but I will. I recently tried their QD undercoat and was surprised at how much better it was than the Dulux Trade equivalent, and about 2/3 of the price too.

Is their QD gloss any good?


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Tom d'Angler wrote:
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Armstead QD satin is brilliant gear.


Thanks for the recommendation. I haven't tried that yet, but I will. I recently tried their QD undercoat and was surprised at how much better it was than the Dulux Trade equivalent, and about 2/3 of the price too.

Is their QD gloss any good?


Ive not used gloss since such a long time. Can’t speak for armstead qd gloss but I’ve used the armstead qd u/c and satin a lot it’s durable enough once it’s cured. Dulux super grip is expensive but brilliant as a bridge over previous oil based woodwork, you know for those really stubborn looking bits of wood also use it if I’m painting over previously stained/varnished items. After sanding obviously but it’s good to be safe.

Best way to find out about their qd gloss is to try it out. Quite a few will recommend armstead it’s hardly going to be a disappointment



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Tom d'Angler wrote:
Is their QD gloss any good?


It's one of those products which isn't great but isn't terrible either. It covers well, applies easily, is reasonably priced but dries to a shiny satin finish. Its gloss level is the letdown IMO and given the alternatives on the market, it's off the pace a bit. One of the few Armstead products I'd sidestep.

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When I used satin paint it looked like I'd primed it and forgotten the top coat.Decided to sand and gloss it.


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I'm with BM Advance. They say (BM) it will go over yellowed gloss with prep no problem.


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