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 Post subject: What do I want?
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This is one end of a loop tool which is one of those that I use for trimming pots after they've been thrown and before their first kiln firing.

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As you can see it's not a complete loop cos I've worn it out.

I do already make some of my own loop tools, ( pic below), these are made from metal banding strap and are for much more crude and heavy trimming.

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The one which is worn out is much much finer, the width of the loop is less than 2mm and the thickness is probably less than 1mm.

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I'd like to have a go at making some of my own of the finer variety but don't know what I'm looking for with the metal strip. I'm sure it's sprung steel of some sort, (the tools are sometimes called *ribbon tools*).

I've got it in my head that old clock springs can be used for this, (they must be similar to banding strap) but I don't have any of them.

What should I be looking/asking for if I was to try and buy some of the strip, and where?

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Something like this?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dental-2mm-Fl ... Sw3ydVued~



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Piano wire ? http://www.elitemodelsonline.co.uk/Products/Tools-and-Materials/Building-Materials/Piano-Wire



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Piano wire is what I would be thinking.


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Those bigger paper clips may do, they are somewhere between brittle spring steel like you get in clocks and mower pull mechanism return springs and the softer, malleable steel like florists wire. I have used them for similar tools when making jewellery but that was on wax not clay.



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Dave54 wrote:


it's the right shape and size, but I think (guess) it's just soft wire, (possibly used to make braces?), I'll send them an email and find out.

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Piano wire is what I would be thinking.


Piano wire is round, it needs to be flat so I can get some sort of edge on it, they don't need to be knifesharp, more like a cabinet scraper, but I think starting off round is a step too far.

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Those bigger paper clips may do, they are somewhere between brittle spring steel like you get in clocks and mower pull mechanism return springs and the softer, malleable steel like florists wire. I have used them for similar tools when making jewellery but that was on wax not clay.


Do you mean like Bulldog clips? The steel would be about right - but I may have trouble cutting them down to what I want.
Metalwork is not something I have much experience with or the tools for, ( or sometimes the patience).

If I thought I could safely cut down some of the pallet banding strap I have into thin strips I'd try that.

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Aldi or lidl have tin snips on offer......might be a good buy, for straight cutting ribbons from stuff.

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Aldi or lidl have tin snips on offer......might be a good buy, for straight cutting ribbons from stuff.

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Cheers Billy, I've got tin snips and whilst I can probably cut the right size strips, it buggers up the edges, (I cut the banding strap to length for my bigger loop tools with snips and the cut edges are always deformed).

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Numb nuts question time....

Would a veggie peeler do the same job ??


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It looks like a good one but can't make out of your work.


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Mate who had a mate who was a dentist got me some similar long ago for something. I thought it was fairly springy, but it may not have been.
What about the strips that come in some types of wiper blade? They're stainless and quite springy?



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wine~o wrote:
Numb nuts question time....

Would a veggie peeler do the same job ??


No, I don't think so, not really, the cutting angle is all wrong and it's way too big for about 99% of what I'd want to do.

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Mate who had a mate who was a dentist got me some similar long ago for something. I thought it was fairly springy, but it may not have been.
What about the strips that come in some types of wiper blade? They're stainless and quite springy?
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I've emailed the sell of the item you found on eBay, so I'll see what they say.

The wiper inserts are a good shout, there could be some mileage in that, I'm predicting that my old van is going to get vandalised some time this weekend. :mrgreen:

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Hi,

Spring steel from Blackgates engineers? :scratch:

http://www.blackgates.co.uk/catalogue.html

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Thanks Col, I'll have to go and find a feeler gauge and remind myself what 15 thou looks like, it's definitely smaller than a 4 X 2. :oops:

I'm thinking that 15 thou might be a bit thin, probably worth a punt though.

Who knows, it could end up as my favourite loop tool. :mrgreen:

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Anything on here any help not sure if they sell spare wire http://www.scarva.com/Mobile/MobileSearchResults.aspx/?ProductGroupID=18



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