Replacing sockets
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Replacing sockets
I'm looking to replace some old plastic face plates, upon removal the old socket has two earth's, two live and two neutrals going to the individual sockets. There is no earth strap going to the metal back box. Can I just replace like for like? The new faceplate has two earth terminals bit assume they are joined so can use just the one? TIA
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Re: Replacing sockets
No, metal fixings should be earthed. You should have a wire (sheathed in yellow/green sleeving) from the earth terminal connecting to the earth terminal in the back box.mole81 wrote:I'm looking to replace some old plastic face plates, upon removal the old socket has two earth's, two live and two neutrals going to the individual sockets. There is no earth strap going to the metal back box. Can I just replace like for like? The new faceplate has two earth terminals bit assume they are joined so can use just the one? TIA
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Re: Replacing sockets
Even with the plastic face plate? Can I just retro fit this if it's missing?ahfix wrote:No, metal fixings should be earthed. You should have a wire (sheathed in yellow/green sleeving) from the earth terminal connecting to the earth terminal in the back box.mole81 wrote:I'm looking to replace some old plastic face plates, upon removal the old socket has two earth's, two live and two neutrals going to the individual sockets. There is no earth strap going to the metal back box. Can I just replace like for like? The new faceplate has two earth terminals bit assume they are joined so can use just the one? TIA
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Re: Replacing sockets
Faceplate screw heads are usually exposed and fix to the metal back box, any loose wire or due cramming a wire comes into contact with metal box then it has a potential as will the screws, sure there are others reasons too.
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Re: Replacing sockets
Oh right ill get some earth cable then to fix to back box!aeromech3 wrote:Faceplate screw heads are usually exposed and fix to the metal back box, any loose wire or due cramming a wire comes into contact with metal box then it has a potential as will the screws, sure there are others reasons too.
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Re: Replacing sockets
The socket screws USUALLY provide the earth for the back box.ahfix wrote:No, metal fixings should be earthed. You should have a wire (sheathed in yellow/green sleeving) from the earth terminal connecting to the earth terminal in the back box.mole81 wrote:I'm looking to replace some old plastic face plates, upon removal the old socket has two earth's, two live and two neutrals going to the individual sockets. There is no earth strap going to the metal back box. Can I just replace like for like? The new faceplate has two earth terminals bit assume they are joined so can use just the one? TIA
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So shoukd I run extra earth? Confused!OnlyMe wrote:The socket screws USUALLY provide the earth for the back box.ahfix wrote:No, metal fixings should be earthed. You should have a wire (sheathed in yellow/green sleeving) from the earth terminal connecting to the earth terminal in the back box.mole81 wrote:I'm looking to replace some old plastic face plates, upon removal the old socket has two earth's, two live and two neutrals going to the individual sockets. There is no earth strap going to the metal back box. Can I just replace like for like? The new faceplate has two earth terminals bit assume they are joined so can use just the one? TIA
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Re: Replacing sockets
I always would; it makes sure and is only a tiny bit of extra work. Earth sleeving isn't very costly either.
The contact between screw and conductive eyelet around the face-plate hole may not always be the best, especially as it ages or if it isn't done up properly by someone in future. Another vulnerable time is if things have been purposely loosened (say during decorating). Admittedly, problems are unlikely - but IMO why risk them at all?
The contact between screw and conductive eyelet around the face-plate hole may not always be the best, especially as it ages or if it isn't done up properly by someone in future. Another vulnerable time is if things have been purposely loosened (say during decorating). Admittedly, problems are unlikely - but IMO why risk them at all?
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Re: Replacing sockets
Fair comment, where can I buy a tiny length of earth cable and sleeve?Kev888 wrote:I always would; it makes sure and is only a tiny bit of extra work. Earth sleeving isn't very costly either.
The contact between screw and conductive eyelet around the face-plate hole may not always be the best, especially as it ages or if it isn't done up properly by someone in future. Another vulnerable time is if things have been purposely loosened (say during decorating). Admittedly, problems are unlikely - but IMO why risk them at all?
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Re: Replacing sockets
Any good DIY store.mole81 wrote:where can I buy a tiny length of earth cable and sleeve?
(If push comes t shove, buy a bit of Twin and earth)
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Re: Replacing sockets
Thanks :)someone-else wrote:Any good DIY store.mole81 wrote:where can I buy a tiny length of earth cable and sleeve?
(If push comes t shove, buy a bit of Twin and earth)
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Re: Replacing sockets
Probably cheaper to but some flex and strip out the earth.someone-else wrote:Any good DIY store.mole81 wrote:where can I buy a tiny length of earth cable and sleeve?
(If push comes t shove, buy a bit of Twin and earth)
Although I never fit the flylead unless it's on the spec or required for the regs.
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Re: Replacing sockets
B&Q Washington (Tyne and Wear) did not have earth sleeve. Balls to that ... but easy enough to get 100m from toolstation WTF.someone-else wrote:Any good DIY store.mole81 wrote:where can I buy a tiny length of earth cable and sleeve?
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Re: Replacing sockets
I've took advice and replaced the socket with an mk one from screwfix... It's slightly smaller all round that the previous socket and can now seem rough edges... Is this common?OchAye wrote:B&Q Washington (Tyne and Wear) did not have earth sleeve. Balls to that ... but easy enough to get 100m from toolstation WTF.someone-else wrote:Any good DIY store.mole81 wrote:where can I buy a tiny length of earth cable and sleeve?
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