Help with an Old Bench Grinder

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Help with an Old Bench Grinder

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Hi all,
New to the forum, sorry to start off with a question, but here goes.
i have a very old Wolf Bench Grinder, whilst using it today it suddenly stopped and blew the fuse, both in its own plug and an extension i was using.
Changed the fuses switched on and same again. I am i correct in thinking the coil or armature has gone or is it something else. As i say very old so im guessing no parts available or am i wrong.

hope the pictures give you an insight into its age or possible fault.
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Re: Help with an Old Bench Grinder

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3rd pic, is that damage to the wire from the capacitor?
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Re: Help with an Old Bench Grinder

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Rorschach wrote:3rd pic, is that damage to the wire from the capacitor?
Cant see where you mean
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Re: Help with an Old Bench Grinder

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green wire, bottom left of the last picture, not 3rd, my bad.
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Re: Help with an Old Bench Grinder

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Ahh, see where you mean now. afraid not, just a collection of 30 years of dust and spiders web.
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Ok not that simple then lol. What about the capacitor itself, doesn't look swollen, anything leaking out of it?
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Change the capacitor - at that age it won't be as good as it should be and is often the cause of failed motor starting.
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Re: Help with an Old Bench Grinder

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Any suggestions where I could go looking for parts.
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Why not buy a new one ?

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Re: Help with an Old Bench Grinder

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I'd hate to throw it out if it can be saved, just for the sake of a few parts.
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I understand you may hate to throw out parts that can be fixed "for a few parts" but sometimes it is better to scrap them and start again.
You first hurdle is what is the value of the capacitor? (Should be printed on it) Once you have found that you can then buy a new one and try it and hope it is at fault. (If you have a multi meter you could check the capacitor, but then again if you had a multi meter would you have not done that first)

Lots of places to buy them, my favourite is ebay. (or if you want to pay too much there is amazon)

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Everyone so quick to chuck things out. It's a good old solid bench grinder, it has already last many lifetimes longer than an el cheapo. It is totally worth spending a little bit of time trying to fix it, as long as it is economical to do so.
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The capacitor will have a value written on the side - 4uF, 8uF whatever - and you can purchase replacements of the correct value (or near-enough) that will work but won't be the same shape/size as the original one (newer devices are usually a lot smaller, physically).

I'm with the OP here. Older stuff is better built etc and should be used unless they are BER or there are no spares available.
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Re: Help with an Old Bench Grinder

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Hi again, thanks for the replies. Sorry a bit slow getting back but here is a pic of the offending item. Browsed the net, but unsure of what/which to get, if any.

HELP !!!
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Re: Help with an Old Bench Grinder

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someone-else wrote:New bench grinder, 150w £20, 350w £50
If you want a piece of Chinese carp where you need to spend ages balancing the grinding wheels every time you change them and which may last a couple of years(max), then yes. If you want something which works for years, is heavy, quiet and robust then no - £100 and upwards is more like it (take a look at Metabo grinders or even Luna grinders, if you can find them). Sometimes cheap really is nasty
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