square edge worktop fitting help

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square edge worktop fitting help

Post by mickb2005 » Tue Mar 31, 2015 4:10 am

Hi guys

I have a Howdens white glass effect square edge worktop to fit

Kitchen I U shaped on the right hand side it is full width on the left hand side it is wall units fitted on the floor so the worktop is going to be narrower

To fit the worktop will it need to be mitred or is it just a butt joint

Thanks in advance

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Re: square edge worktop fitting help

Post by philprime » Tue Mar 31, 2015 7:02 am

On square edge worktops, you only need a butt joint.
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Re: square edge worktop fitting help

Post by fin » Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:17 am

are they the type of tops where you have a pvc edge strip rather than a lami edge strip?
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Re: square edge worktop fitting help

Post by steviejoiner74 » Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:28 am

If they have a slight chamfer you need to mitre them.
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Re: square edge worktop fitting help

Post by fin » Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:36 am

they sound like theyll be the sort you put the smaller mason mitre on like. my jig doesnt have that capability though so i gotta just go with a standard mason mitre all the time.

gan canny with the tops if they are mirror chip. and watch the cutter. i found they chipped really easily
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Re: square edge worktop fitting help

Post by philprime » Tue Mar 31, 2015 2:51 pm

fin wrote:gan canny with the tops if they are mirror chip. and watch the cutter. i found they chipped really easily

I Always use a new cutter and take a shallow pass to cut through the laminate using dust extraction really helps, I just need a longer hose for mine as it's now to short
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Re: square edge worktop fitting help

Post by fin » Tue Mar 31, 2015 4:02 pm

aye.. the one i did a while back. i had to cut this particular top with the top upside down. so it was right hand male joint. new cutter. when i cut through the top it chipped loads out on the work surface. i ended up cutting the joint 4 times before it was good enough. when id finished i looked at the cutter and it was propper hammered. only ever had it on that particular type of work top.

was using my extractor on the router that day too.
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Re: square edge worktop fitting help

Post by speed » Wed Apr 01, 2015 8:26 pm

if its pvc edging, it will peel off, and butt join the worktop

it will just need a small mitre on the pvc edging where it joins
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Re: square edge worktop fitting help

Post by fin » Wed Apr 01, 2015 11:57 pm

Have you done many like that then dude? I just did a standard mason mitre on the bench I mentioned earlier. I was at some point gonna get a different jig to allow me to do both types of mason mitre joint
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Re: square edge worktop fitting help

Post by Job and Knock » Thu Apr 02, 2015 12:17 am

fin wrote:I was at some point gonna get a different jig to allow me to do both types of mason mitre joint
Both types of mason's mitre? Wossat?

In the "olden days" before there were router jigs, mason's mitre joints were cut with a saw and cleaned up with a router and straight edge. The angled piece on the female part of the joint was awkward as you had to creep up on the fit with a combination of files, chisels and a shoulder plane - but it meant that you could cut a very small, discrete mitre on tops with a small edge radius. Not that I'd want to go back - a joint like that could easily take 1-1/2 to 2 hours in a tight kitchen. Small wonder that a lot of guys took the easy option and just cut a big mitre
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Re: square edge worktop fitting help

Post by fin » Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:26 pm

http://www.its.co.uk/pd/KWJ700-Trend-Tr ... KWJ700.htm

see how theres a different angle at each end?

use the shallow angle when theres a slight radius edge on the worktops. like a lot of howdens tops.

normal end for normal post formed type worktops.

however i just use my trend 1002 jig so i have to put the same on all the tops. or butt join em like speed said.
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Re: square edge worktop fitting help

Post by steviejoiner74 » Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:30 pm

You never blagged a free jig from howdens fin? I've had mines about 6/7 years,I think it's a unika jig with howdens branding but it's a nice piece of kit especially for free!
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Re: square edge worktop fitting help

Post by fin » Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:47 pm

not yet. ill get the little fella at the howdens i go to to get me one next time
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Re: square edge worktop fitting help

Post by steviejoiner74 » Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:32 pm

I always try and get something off them when I buy a load of doors or the odd kitchen,even if it's a trade scew case or something!
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Re: square edge worktop fitting help

Post by fin » Fri Apr 03, 2015 9:11 am

aye they jus gave me a screw case like. they normally offer a screw case or a chissel set. i told em last time the chisels were rubbish like
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