Loctite vs Super Glue?

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Loctite vs Super Glue?

Post by yadnom1973 » Thu Apr 12, 2018 9:43 am

Looking at fixing a threaded stud into a handle and I was going to use Loctite Red but the guy at the shop was going to use Super Glue. I always took Loctite Red as pretty much the last word in bonding threads as long as there was no heat involved, go knows it’s given me enough misery trying to undo them. I don’t really know anything about how super glue would behave?

So I was wondering what people out there normally turn to for a permanent fix of a stainless steel thread?
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Re: Loctite vs Super Glue?

Post by ayjay » Thu Apr 12, 2018 10:26 am

With a simple Cyanoacrylate glue (super glue) setting in ten seconds (or less) it sounds less than ideal if you have to wind something onto a thread before the glue has set.

Loctite Red takes up to 24 hours to set completely so might not be ideal if you want to use the handle soon afterwards, a rapid set epoxy might be a better alternative, you'll get five to ten minutes working time and not too long for a full cure.
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Re: Loctite vs Super Glue?

Post by yadnom1973 » Thu Apr 12, 2018 11:19 am

Hi, ayjay. Thanks for the help. Working time is not an issue. It can be done in 10 seconds if need be though a little tricky. Or it can be left to cure for however long it takes the only issue for me is which will make the strongest bond? It’s an item that is stored indoors but has intermittent out door use, could get wet if the weathers bad but not expected to be submerged for any period of time beyond being dropped in a pond or something then retrieved. Will be expected to put up with the harshest exterior conditions when in use. I’ll put a spring pin through the shaft and collar also but I was just surprised that he preferred Super Glue and was wondering if other people reached for this before the Loctite also and why? I’d not thought of epoxy ether, you think it would be stronger than Loctite?
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Re: Loctite vs Super Glue?

Post by Dave54 » Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:52 pm

Permanent fix I'd usually go for Loctite red, although blue will be pretty permanent for most things.
No luck with using superglue here.
You can heat the thread to 250C (IIRC) to remove any fasteners where Loctite has been used, assuming nothing else will be damaged of course.
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Re: Loctite vs Super Glue?

Post by ayjay » Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:07 pm

Dave54 wrote:Permanent fix I'd usually go for Loctite red, although blue will be pretty permanent for most things.
I think the blue is removable with hand tools but the red needs heat as well. I'd use epoxy cos I always have some of that, but I'm sure the red loctite will work just as well, it is what it's designed for when all's said and done.
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Re: Loctite vs Super Glue?

Post by Dave54 » Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:13 pm

ayjay wrote:
Dave54 wrote:Permanent fix I'd usually go for Loctite red, although blue will be pretty permanent for most things.
I think the blue is removable with hand tools but the red needs heat as well. I'd use epoxy cos I always have some of that, but I'm sure the red loctite will work just as well, it is what it's designed for when all's said and done.
Agreed, the blue is removable, but it still makes things pretty tight to get off.
The red stuff I've got is "Studlock" it's ages old but still works. Apparently it's OK to use after the expiry for "non critical" stuff.
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Re: Loctite vs Super Glue?

Post by yadnom1973 » Thu Apr 12, 2018 3:11 pm

I think Loctite it the way to go I was jusy wondering if I was missing a trick there.
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Re: Loctite vs Super Glue?

Post by Rorschach » Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:02 pm

Superglue is probably about as effective as blue loctite.
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Re: Loctite vs Super Glue?

Post by Hitch » Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:13 pm

Loctite is the proper thing... wouldnt have even thought about superglue when there is a readily available specific product....

Stainless threads.... half the time they gall up anyway :lol: If you dont lubricate them anyway.
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Re: Loctite vs Super Glue?

Post by Nos » Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:35 am

I personally would use Loctite however superglue is available in different setting times I use a lot of "60 sec" on the models I build, it does what it say on the tube :wink: Nos
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Re: Loctite vs Super Glue?

Post by Jonno34 » Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:53 am

Loctite either blue or red though red will be harder to release
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