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 Post subject: Victorian Brickwork
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I don't know about anyone else, but when I hear the term "Victorian brickwork" it always conjures images of ornate factory frontages or huge victorian sewers with perfect brick arches and pillars that would never been seen by the general public...

I had a the job of removing a load of blown plaster from an internal wall in a ~1880s house today (and I'm pretty sure the it was the original plaster, held together by multiple layers of wallpaper, that was coming off) and found this lot underneath. Looks like a pile of hardcore that someone randomly flung lumps of mortar at :lol:

The external walls all look great, so I guess the skilled bricklayers did what could be seen, and they used apprentices or general labourers to do the stuff that was going to be hidden from view. I'm amazed it survived the blitz and has stayed upright for 130-odd years. :-)


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 Post subject: Re: Victorian Brickwork
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Bespoke no one likes straight lines there to perfect and neat :-)

As long as it holds and is level I suppose lol


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I must admit that the work in Victorian built houses is always pretty poor, just remove any lath and plaster from an internal wall and look at the stud work, it's normally very bad!

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Victorians were all about show. If it's on show, go to town on it. If it's hidden, don't bother. Many Victorian houses are the same. External brick work is flawless, but internal plastered stuff is RAF.. Still, they've stood the test of time. :wink: :wink: :wink: (mind you, it's much like my 1980's built council house, which I suspect, won't stand the test of time) :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Yep, I guess I shouldn't have too much of a pop at it as, to date, the house (a Victorian terraced 2 up-2 down) has lasted a lot longer than anything I've ever built, and probably a lot longer than it was originally intended to :-). There are loads of these types of houses in the area I work in, and I'm deffo starting to recognise that a "minimalist" approach to build quality seems to be a bit of a running theme in any original bits that survive. I suppose they were chucked together as cheaply and as quickly as possible to house factory workers, etc.

Of course, they're now called "victorian character cottages", and change hands for the best part of £400,000 :lol:


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I don't know about anyone else, but when I hear the term "Victorian brickwork" it always conjures images of ornate factory frontages or huge victorian sewers with perfect brick arches and pillars that would never been seen by the general public...

Not in my muind it doesn't. But then I'm on about my fifth Victorian terrace house......

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hey check out the piled stones with no mortar to make dry stone walls around wind and rain soaked farmers fields :) they last a lot longer than any house built today


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Yes, but they can be a bugger to put a DPM into :shock: I've had one really old house (main part 1605) with rubble-infill walls (fundamentally drystone walls) and that made even Victorian jerry builders look good......

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My parents old place was made of mud and straw and has been standing for over 400 yrs - and it's one tough b*stard to try and knock down ::b


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Is that cob? Can't see it lasting that well up here - mind you it does rain a bit more in these parts

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Yeah cob. It's a fairly local rural thing. Quite a few in Dorset and Devon but also east Anglia too

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When we were doing up my mum's house(1902) one of the internal walls had brick work like that. The wall was bowing and when all the plaster was hacked off we noticed there was a layer of wood between some courses of bricks. Our builder thought it might have been to level off the brick work. Of course, the wood was thoroughly rotten so the stairs had to come down and the wall re-built in block.

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