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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 11:35 pm 
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Hello,

I have a question, i've just started building a verandah and have only got the beam bolted in at the moment and it sits flush against the wall, but for some reason i'm getting water leak into the kitchen wall and then go onto the floor does anyone know if the beam could be collecting the water and then its soaking into the wall ?

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Is the wall that the beam is bolted to a cavity wall or a solid wall?

If you don't know, then how thick is the wall, you can probably measure it at a window or a doorway.

How long are the bolts?

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Its the kitchen wall so i believe it is a cavity wall as further up there is a big hole where i think insulation was put in but that hole is open and exposed not sure why that would be.

i did use pretty big bolts say 10-15cm easy drive countersunk masonry bolts.

if you look at the pic further up is where i've chiselled out the mortar for the flashing strip.

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Any help appreciated i'm currently on holiday and my stepdaughter has told me the water has run down the wall due to the rain and is flooding the kitchen floor.

As it's a cavity wall could i have used bolts that are too long should i switch to shorter ones ?.

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You're not actually sure that it is a cavity wall, you decided that it was because of a hole higher up the wall. The bolts might be 4" or 6". So far it's all a bit ambiguous.

The thickness of the wall will tell us if it is a cavity wall or not.

The water could be coming in via the bolts, but I'd say it's unlikely: the chase for the flashing is a more likely culprit, but that shouldn't really be happening if it is a cavity wall, (although water can track across wall ties).

Are there any leaks from the guttering above running down the wall? Is the roofing felt at the eaves in good condition.

It's difficult to take a good guess without the facts.

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The brickwork looks like stretcher bond, is that more common in a cavity wall?


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They look like imperials to me. Unlikely to be a cavity, is it wet all the time or only after it's rained?

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Here's some other pics

pic 1 and 2 is where its leaking i've measured from the window frame up 16inches and then i measured outside the window frame up and it directly points to the flashing where i had mortared out and sealed with led sealant, there are a few little holes as i had ran out of sealant so will go over this and make it flush but i'm still not convinced this would cause this amount of leaking.

outside pics you can see the wall is looking yellow probably due to the water and you will see in one of the pics there is a hole ? is this a vent hole or insulation hole.

and i have noticed that the gutter is backing up at the top of the house as its got sludge.


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Razor wrote:
is it wet all the time or only after it's rained?


Important question to answer.

Might have nicked some pipework putting those bolts in.

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Only when there is torrential rain and i've tried to recreate the leak with a hose pipe and aiming it down the house but to no avail, so very bizarre.

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I think i know what the problem is, this was doing it when i first bolted up the beam without even touching any flashing so i think i've used bolts that are too long, ones i used are 15cm big so i have a feeling i've bridged the cavity going to swap them out for smaller ones.


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correction confusing myself now, they are 10cm taking into account the wood is 5cm thick so 5cm goes into the wall but in anycase i have backed them out a bit will see what happens.


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UPDATE

Found the problem,

You will have to zoom in check the gap in the brick work behind the pipes, i blasted water in a shower mode at this and held it there and hey presto it started leaking i guess it will track down and across the kitchen wall. So overall nothing wrong with the verandah build it was just barstool of a coincidence that this happened straight after putting the verandah up.


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