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Mrs D says I am pedantic over my instance that everything should be right. I cannot stand it when she relates a story to her aunt on the phone and gets it wrong and I have to correct her which does not go down too well :lol:

I think it might have some legs if we can off load our pedantic thoughts in this thread, unless I am the only one :lol:

Here is an absurd bit of my pedantic thoughts. As a kid I used to love the 1/- graphic war books like Commando, Air Ace etc. Now I know they were the home of school boy German with Achtung Spitfeur, Gott in Himmel etc but in the main they were pretty good. I recall one story where the scene is set in a German U boat and the Captain is crash diving and shouts 'Close Pillenwherfers'. This stuck in my head for some reason and was re-awoken when I was watching the new series of Das Boot on Sky Atlantic (excellent by the way, tits and torpedos) Anyway, I did a translate online and it comes out as 'Pill Bowlers' I am a bit narked at this sloppy work by Fleetway libraries editorial staff.

Just think if I had gone to Kiel, Germany to have a look around the preserved U Boat there (Mrs D will not go) I could have embarrassed myself asking abut the Pillenwherfers.

Just an example of 60 year old pedancy :lol: Anyone got any?

For completeness https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Pictu ... le_stories

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I used to enjoy the War Library books as well.
Not bad stories as I remember them.
And I'm watching "Das Boot" on Sky Atlantic. (No spoilers please I'm only up to episode 3)
Bit of a look online
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bold_(decoy)


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Me too, had piles of those little books in my bedroom (until moving on to H&E, Fiesta, Knave etc.!)

Being a pedant, had to investigate what you're saying!

"Werfer", besides meaning "bowler" (as in balls) also means thrower, launcher, projector. So if we can work out what the first word is supposed to be, to have a launcher on a submarine would not be outside the realms of possibility.

Could "pills" (pillen) be small projectiles, such as grenades or bombs? A grenade launcher would be a mortar tube?

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https://uboat.net/forums/read.php?20,60666,60714
Some sort of countermeasure........

AHA! Answer is here:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bold_(decoy)



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Sorry DWD the title of the thread is wrong...

It should be Pedants' thread. :lol: :huray:

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:lol: well done, :lol:

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Pillenwerfer was a device that launched 'decoys' into the water around the submarine to 'distract' homing torpedoes or ships sonar. I saw this explanation some time ago on another forum.

BTW - I am fluent in German but would never have worked out what it meant.

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@Arco, well done a 60 year old niggle solved. That must have been it, a counter measure. The Fleetway guys were well on the detail. My mind is at rest...on this at least. :lol:

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Colin, thanks for that. I must admit I have never heard of them before. I can go to Kiel now and sound like I am well read. Ha ha.

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At this point I should maybe not mention that the missus got me a book on type VII submarines for Christmas and that last year we visited the one in Birkenhead which has been sliced into sections so that you can see inside.

I also saw Das Boot in the cinema in 1981 - in German with Dutch sub-titles (which was a bit hard going, despite my speaking Dutch, plus a bit of German)

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wine~o wrote:
Sorry DWD the title of the thread is wrong...

It should be Pedants' thread. :lol: :huray:


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If anyone is interested https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXiSWPG ... jreload=10 :thumbright:

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In true pedantic style I was thinking about this again. What a brilliant device these 'pills' were. The fizzing effect obviously created the name as the action is like an effervescent 'Andrews liver salts' drink of the time. It fits perfectly as a device name but how amazing that it was used in a kids comic book 60 years ago and it has taken all this time for me to be told the meaning. It just shows that if I had the internet back then I would probably have found out. The writers were clearly experts in their fields, I learned a lot from the little books and it set me out on an interest in WW2 that has stayed with me all my life.

In recent years I found out that the Germans had fly by wire air to air missiles. Amazing for the time.



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dewaltdisney wrote:
anyone got any?


Thought the original purpose of the thread was to discuss pedancy, not the WWII technology that it came to discuss! Obviously wine~o's pet hate is the use of apostrophes!


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arco_iris wrote:
Obviously wine~o's pet hate is the use of apostrophes!


Oh no it's not. It's the misuse of the apostrophe. :mrgreen:

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Ayjay's correct, misuse or lack of use of apostrophe.

Although I have been accused of overuse of the ellipsis...

Can't think why :lol:

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