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 Post subject: Socket Issues
PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:57 pm 
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A friend of mine called me over today. She was painting the tiles in her kitchen and had loosened the sockets so she could pull them forward a bit. Unfortunately, she pulled one socket straight off the wiring. I was going to put the socket back on the wall for her, but there is no way I can fit the wires back in the socket and tighten the screws, they are far too short. It looks like when someone tiled the splashback, they unscrewed the socket from the box, pushed the tiles under the socket, and screwed the socket back on the box. Without re-doing the wiring.

It also looks like the cables are traced through the wall & plastered over - no slack at all.

What is an acceptable way of fixing this? It is a ring main, can I connect both cables using 3-way wago blocks and using a bit of extra cable connect the socket to those as well? This does mean that the inch or two of extra cable would be only be a single 2.5mm, is that OK for a double socket (it is the kitchen, she may plug in things like a kettle)


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Ahem! I am not a qualified electrician, but I cannot see any difference between a ring main (two cables) connected in the back of a socket, or, as you suggest, connected by Wagos then the wagos connected to the socket by a short insulated wire. I don't see any problem, as with a spur, though I see your point.

If you have doubts, then use two way wagos and double up the short leads, so you still have 2 x 2.5 going in to the socket.



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arco_iris wrote:
Ahem! I am not a qualified electrician, but I cannot see any difference between a ring main (two cables) connected in the back of a socket, or, as you suggest, connected by Wagos then the wagos connected to the socket by a short insulated wire. I don't see any problem, as with a spur, though I see your point.

If you have doubts, then use two way wagos and double up the short leads, so you still have 2 x 2.5 going in to the socket.


I would say doubling up is overkill.


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Lew wrote:
A friend of mine called me over today. She was painting the tiles in her kitchen and had loosened the sockets so she could pull them forward a bit. Unfortunately, she pulled one socket straight off the wiring. I was going to put the socket back on the wall for her, but there is no way I can fit the wires back in the socket and tighten the screws, they are far too short. It looks like when someone tiled the splashback, they unscrewed the socket from the box, pushed the tiles under the socket, and screwed the socket back on the box. Without re-doing the wiring.

It also looks like the cables are traced through the wall & plastered over - no slack at all.

What is an acceptable way of fixing this? It is a ring main, can I connect both cables using 3-way wago blocks and using a bit of extra cable connect the socket to those as well? This does mean that the inch or two of extra cable would be only be a single 2.5mm, is that OK for a double socket (it is the kitchen, she may plug in things like a kettle)


Thanks

Lew


I am no electrian so please take this post with a pinch of salt. I am not too sure what it is with these WAGO connectors but in a kitchen i would crimp the cable and NOT use wago connectors. If i was to use a wago in a kitchen i would install a RCD protected socket. Regs 522.6.6 - 522.6.8, 526.3


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Wago connectors are better than crimps seeing as they don't need any special tools to be able to use them.

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