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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:08 pm 
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I currently have a normal double switch socket. One switch controls the downstairs light and the other controls the upstairs. I am installing a dimmable light feature downstairs but not up. I was just wondering if there is such a thing as a socket with one dimmer and one switch or if I installed a double dimmer would that work?
Also for a normal dimmable feature is it enough to just install a dimmer switch? or do I need to do any other work


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 Post subject: Re: Switch + dimmer
PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:20 pm 
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You can install a dummy dimmer module on the side you do not wish to dim. They're not expensive and easy to change out.

You might want to check your light fitting and lamp are suitable for dimming or you could get strobing or other issues on the dimmed side.



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The simplest way would to use a modular system to make a custom switch

Varilight (do there own and MK compatible) and MK both do grid systems

A grid switch is made up of a switch module(s), a Grid frame and a switch grid aka faceplate


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First of all it is called a switch / switch plate, not a double switch socket. I had to point that out to make your search easier, other wise you will just end up with

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Which is a double switched socket.

As said what you want is more commonly known as a "Grid switch You will also need a Grid frame a grid box and a Grid plate

But before you even think about any of that, I should ask the following.
Is your your light fitting able to be dimmed? (not all are)
Why are you dimming a hall lamp?

Get an an echo dot, a phillips hue kit and enjoy. (You just tell alexa to turn the light on or off, no need for a switch :-P )

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Why use a grid switch when you can just get a normal double dimmer switch and change out one of the modules for a dummy?


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Maz123 wrote:
Why use a grid switch when you can just get a normal double dimmer switch and change out one of the modules for a dummy?



Because your "off the shelf" dimmer does NOT have a module to be changed. But a grid switch can have any combination you like (Within reason)

Not wishing to be pedantic but of what use would a "dummy" be, since he still wants two switches, one normal on / off switch, the other a dimmer.

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I'm yet to come across a dimmer that I couldn't change the module on.

It's a dummy dimmer module....in that it looks like a dimmer switch but simply turns the light on and off with no actual dimming function.


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Link to a suitable dimmer? and your "dummy"

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Most of the double dimmers I have come across are 1 complete module apart from the Varilight VL ones and there on the chunky side and are rotary on/off

s-e no need for a grid box, the frames fit a standard backbox and you just add what ever face you want - long gone are the days of the grids just being in metal clad


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someone-else wrote:
Link to a suitable dimmer? and your "dummy"



The dummy switches are these sort of things

https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/VLMPINT.html
https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/VLSM.html
ttps://www.sparkswarehouse.com/products ... ush-dimmer

Other makes are available. Personally I do not use them. I tend to use modular plates (as mentioned by Bob) and make whatever switches I need)


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