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 Post subject: Workzone 18v nailer
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Hi folks,

Just spotted this on the Aldi website: https://www.aldi.co.uk/workzone-18v-li- ... 0210360000

£80 has to be a good deal for an 18v nailer? Has anyone tried one?

I was thinking of getting the Ryobi + 18v which is the cheapest nailer i could see out there, plus having the one+ battery system opens up set of tools alternative tools I can't get/afford for my Hitachi batteries. I'm tempted to get this but the down side is having another battery + charger set.

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It is a pinner rather than a nail gun. Most of the cost is the battery I reckon. I have a compressed air version and it has never had much use as it is limited to so few applications. The best ones shoot staples so you can do a bit of upholstery although that is not often either.

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yes 18g is just a light pin gun
i have the old blue ryobi had it about 12-15 years exellent tool for 9mm txg pine cladding or 6mm ply in drawer basses or cabinet backs holding whilst the glue goes off

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Thanks guys.

So what is the difference between this and a "proper nailer"? I thought both were 18g which is just the nail thickness ?

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18g pin gun 1.22mm
16g light nail gun 1.62mm
15g heavy nail gun 1.83mm

there is about 3 times as much metal in a 16 over a 18
and perhaps 4-5 times in a 15 over a 18

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big-all wrote:
18g pin gun 1.22mm
16g light nail gun 1.62mm
15g heavy nail gun 1.83mm

18ga - 2nd fix pinner or brad nailer - small furniture assembly tasks (in conjunction with screws, glue, etc). Sometimes used on pre-finished hardwood skirtings, etc where minimal hole size is necessary (but generally in conjunction with construction adhesives and the like). Maximum fixing length 50mm

16 ga - 2nd fix nailer - standard joinery installation tool for use on window boards, skirtings, architraves, etc. NOT capable of fixing fencing, sheds, decking or studwork together. Maximum fixing length 63mm

15 ga - 2nd fix nailer - very uncommon in trade work in the UK. Used in the USA to (amongst other things) secure door casings into timber stud walling (but note that their systems call for timber packers not the plastic types we use here and that their methods of timber framing can and do differ radically from ours). Much bigger head than 16ga pins so can be used for lightweight cladding, etc but STILL NOT capable of securely fixing fencing, sheds, decking or studwork together. Much bigger holes needed to be filled if used instead of a 16 ga gun

And for comparison, this is a clipped head nailer (or a 1st fix nailer):

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Specifically designed to replace hammer and nails (or drill and screws) on tasks such as fixing fencing, sheds, decking or studwork together. Not suitable for installing trim such as skirtings or architraves unless you like that "less sophisticated" look..... Fixings (nails, real ones) are clipped head (D-type) or offset full head. Maximum fixing length 90mm (minimum 50mm) and shank diameter circa 2.7 to 3.5mm

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I think i'll give the workzone a miss then.

Ideally I'd like something for woodworking, building wardrobes and if possible fixing 15mm cladding to a shed I plan to build (frame would be screwed).

Seems like a 15ga would be the best all rounder for the above but they don't appear to be readily available or cheap.

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ahfix wrote:
Seems like a 15ga would be the best all rounder for the above but they don't appear to be readily available or cheap.

Not commonly used in construction or workshop here. If you are a DIYer you would probably be better off considering one of those small portable compressors by Machine Mart or B&Q. I used to have a little unit which was big enough or pinners and which would run a much bigger full head pneumatic nailer at a stretch (it tended to get a bit short of breath if I was nailing frenetically). These little units often come as a kit with an 18ga nailer, compressor and maybe a tyre inflater at £100 to £130 and are quite good value. A 15ga nail gun will probably set you back £30 or so for a cheapie. One thing I would caution against is ever buying a combined nail and staple gun. This is because the driver pin needs to be wide enough to drive a narrow crown staple and will always mar the surface when you drive pins. Ity's unavoidable, but if you don't intend to pin finished work or your handiwork will never be seen then it doesn't matter

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