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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:58 pm 
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Hi Guys, I'm new to this forum but I've scoured the Internet and cant for the life of me find what I need. Hopefully one of you guys can point me in the right direction, it would be greatly appreciated!
So In my hall I have installed new skirting board I have made with LED track through the centre. The stairs are boxed off like a closet for coats. I have had to make a new door which I wanted to blend in with the rest of the room. So I have made it out of 18mm MDF and fitted skirting board to the front, so when the door is closed the skirting board flows all the way around the room.
My problem is that I don't know what hinges to use.. Normal Blum Hinges wont work and I was thinking that there was a type of hinge that has a wider clearance between the wall and door at the bottom on the hinge side. Or some type that has 2 stage opening, or something that would allow it to open without damaging the adjacent skirts.

I would be happy to use a slide system but the door would have to pop out before sliding... I just don't know what to do.... haha

I hope that is enough detail and explains the problem, I can upload pictures if required.

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The simplest fix (imo) would be "Broad Butts," fixed so that the pin of the hinge is just beyond the line of the skirting.

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I see what your saying with a broader hinge like that, but the hinge would be unsightly and I don't really want to see anything. Especially as it would have to sit proud of the door by around 18mm.
Barring in mind the door is 18mm thick, but the bottom where the skirt is fitted is more like 36mm. And that's whats causing the issue.

I appreciate the response however.


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Piano hinge?

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For the skirting to clear, the pivot of the hinges must be directly above the face of the skirting, so this would mean using "broad butts" as above, or "parliament hinges".

Where you are making difficulties is that normally a door is a door, has architrave round it and the skirting does not continue across it. Could you chamfer the end of the fixed skirting, with a matching profile on the door piece? No, door wouldn't open very far. Chamfer both pieces, but that would leave a gap.

I don't think they'll do it but on the Screwfix website have a look at products (search) 57874 & 38662; Use google or youtube to search for "SOSS HINGES". Have a look on the Blum & Hafele websites?

Try youtube & search for "hinge types" to see the various actions.


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Piano hinge?


No, that can't work, (unless the door opens inward, and that would be very unusual under a staircase).

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I see what your saying with a broader hinge like that, but the hinge would be unsightly and I don't really want to see anything. Especially as it would have to sit proud of the door by around 18mm.
Barring in mind the door is 18mm thick, but the bottom where the skirt is fitted is more like 36mm. And that's whats causing the issue.


Giving this some thought, you need a pair of Pivot Hinges:

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One goes on the floor, about 50 - 75mm from the hinge side, and may need a washer in it to lessen the friction or clear the carpet. The other goes on the top of the door, same distance in. The door has a hole drilled in each end to accept the pin.

By locating it in from the side, as the door leaf opens out, the hinged side retracts in. Easy to fit, shout if you can't work out how!

I couldn't find any in UK google, but this one was from ebay Hong Kong at 3 weeks delivery, £1.50 each.

I also found more expensive ones with a ball bearing in.


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Ahh Arco, I think you've solved this one.. haha
Im made up now. Been losing sleep over this one!!
I'll fit some tonight and take a picture with the result
Thanks very much


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