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Recently moved into a new house and the previous owner had constructed ceiling storage. I like the idea of providing storage up and out of the way but would like to remake as currently each "U" is screwed into the joist with just 2 screws and it's all a bit rickety. From what I understand screws are not designed to be strong in shear force. So what's best:
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    Bolts (not sure if I want to drill through the joist)
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    Some kind of joist hanger

I looking to store a 3 section ladder and some timber - 50kg weight at a guess?

Or if this is a terrible idea please let me know! :)
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Bolting through is the best/strongest option, especially as that timber looks quite dry. If the timber was newer (and consequently wetter) then I'd use Timbalocks or something similar.

https://www.screwfix.com/c/screws-nails ... ertype=hex

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mods, whats goin on. my post disappeared an wont cpme back when i edited it?


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wes56 wrote:
mods, whats goin on. my post disappeared an wont cpme back when i edited it?


Chances are you posted just as the mods were moving it from building to carpentry. Happens occassionally.



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ayjay wrote:
Bolting through is the best/strongest option, especially as that timber looks quite dry. If the timber was newer (and consequently wetter) then I'd use Timbalocks or something similar.

https://www.screwfix.com/c/screws-nails-fixings/timber-screws/cat7020001?headtype=flange&screwdrivertype=hex



Hi Ayjay,
Thanks for your post - yes your right timber is dry - its 25 years old. Ok so perhaps my concerns about boring a hole through the joist and reducing strength are not really an issue then? M8/m10 bolt through each one then?

Thanks!
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terrance wrote:
ayjay wrote:
Bolting through is the best/strongest option, especially as that timber looks quite dry. If the timber was newer (and consequently wetter) then I'd use Timbalocks or something similar.

https://www.screwfix.com/c/screws-nails ... ertype=hex



Hi Ayjay,
Thanks for your post - yes your right timber is dry - its 25 years old. Ok so perhaps my concerns about boring a hole through the joist and reducing strength are not really an issue then? M8/m10 bolt through each one then?

Thanks!
Mat


Yes, just drill through for a bolt, 8mm will be enough for the weight your proposing. Timbalocks would still work but are more likely to split dry timber unless they're properly pilot drilled (one size for the shank and another for the threaded section).

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