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I'll be changing all switches and sockets in my house, and I'd like some advice over which ones to buy.

I'd like brushed steel and flat design. However, I'm not sure about screwless or not - what are the pros/cons? I prefer screwless but if there are any major disadvantages I could change my mind.

Next question is brand. Initially I was close to purchasing the ones from B&Q (Colours range). Example1 example2. Any thoughts about them?

However there's also Knightsbridge and Varilight at TLC-direct.

Then there's also Schneider (much more expensive though!). Not sure if these are the same as GET

And then there are so many other brands like BG, MK Aspect, Hamilton, Selectric, Legrand etc.

Is it only about looks or are there any significant things I should have in mind before choosing? :help:

I've read somewhere that I may need to change back boxes for any flat switches/sockets, which I accept that I may have to do, hopefully not. I got some sockets and switches from B&Q as a test (Colours range above) and got them in a couple random places in the house without issues.

If you are wondering why go through the trouble of changing all sockets and switches, it's because most look like THIS! :pukeleft:


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did you try them wired up rather than old socket pushed to one side ??

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did you try them wired up rather than old socket pushed to one side ??

yes tried a Colours 2g socket and a switch all wired up, worked fine - at least with those back boxes I tried at random. Maybe not all of them are like that in the house but i'm willing to take the risk and change a few backboxes if needed.


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I have never tried a screwless socket, so I can not comment, but one thing I would say is don't use B & Q own brand, MK are good

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I have never tried a screwless socket, so I can not comment, but one thing I would say is don't use B & Q own brand, MK are good

Thank you for this. I just noticed that Colours switches by B&Q are actually manufactured by BG - there's the BG logo on the back in multiple places. I think they might be the same as the BG Nexus range, under different branding.


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apart from the aforementioned issue of the depth of the back box...

Screwless plates are not actually "screwless" the switch screws back in the same way as a normal switch and then covered by a "clip on" faceplate.

They're ok until there is a fault which needs investigating then the face needs prising off which can damage the paintwork. No such issues with a conventional screwed plate.

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You mention B&Q a couple of times!
Save yourself a bunch of money and use an on-line wholesaler like say TLC Direct. Link below:

https://www.screwfix.com/

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As said, the b&q ones are BG really, so if I go for BG i'll check which retailer / trade supplier sells them cheaper and does bulk discounts. My question is more about brands, e.g. are crabtree any good? what about MK, what about BG or Verilight? Is it worth spending extra for something like Hager or Legrand?


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You pay your money and you take your choice.

B&Q is BG (not that bad) - wonder if the white stuff is BG, because it did not used to be

GET was bought by Schneider a few years ago and is the same thing

Varilight and Crabtree ISTR are the same brand.

Dunno about Selectric - I know some of their white stuff used to be rebadged from another company.

No one can tell you what to fit unless you are married :wink:

And I always offer my customers this option

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No one can tell you what to fit unless you are married :wink:


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I have never tried a screwless socket, so I can not comment, but one thing I would say is don't use B & Q own brand, MK are good


If the B&Q flat plate stuff is made my BG then it is not the same manufacturer of the white plastic sh*t they sell.

Marbro (sp) rings a bell for name of the white plastic shite B&Q sell.

I'll have to call in to a shop and have a laugh at the B&Q prices and whilst I am there I will also have a look for a straight piece of wood.

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MK for me every time, top quality that you can see & feel, will last the life of the house.

However, my suggestion (what I do for myself) is to list the part numbers & quantities of what you need, check with the likes of TLC or CPC, but also Fleabay, where there are often bargains to be had even if you have to pay postage. Don't just look at lowest price first, scroll down to multiples & job lots.


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