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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:12 pm 
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I know it's been done to death but what are you guys using these days?
I like the Aqua but get really fed up of buying new brushes all the time. Dulux quick dry I find hard to get on with application wise and it also runs badly! If the Aqua didn't ruin brushes it would be a fantastic product. How does Bedec compare? Quite costly though at my supplier.


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I'm mainly using Jonnos aqua.

I've bought some bedec and also some isolac, both in primer, satin and gloss, but havent had chance to try them yet.

Caparol aftprimer and Satin are well worth a try mate. The satin leaves a very hard and smooth finish.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:25 pm 
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What do you do about brushes? Just add them into cost of job and throw them away?


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Used Johnstones Trade Acrylic Satin last week and thought that was lovely stuff. Great coverage, easy to use, stays open for ages and looks nice.


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The Aqua satin?


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https://www.johnstonestrade.com/product/acrylic-satin


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Deccy wrote:
What do you do about brushes? Just add them into cost of job and throw them away?
I just wash them out in cold water if I'm using aqua.

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But say you're doing a full house, 1 brush isn't going to last with Aqua even if you wash it out regularly . I probably use a brush 4 or 5 times in it and it's ready for the bin.

Desmondo - will give that a try. The Aqua satin is good stuff too. I think Jonnos are leading the way so far.

Spoke to a chap from Johnstones about cleaning brushes after Aqua. He said wash out in clean spirit. That's b*llocks. Prolonged use of Aqua knackers brushes, fact. There must be some way to stop this.


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I use contractors, blaze and silvertips and all seem OK in aqua.

I find trick is to wash them a few times during the day, and if you're not using one for a bit leave it standing in the gear until you need it.

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I must be mssing something mate. I use the Fox in it and for example, undercoat 10 sides doors, wash out and gloss them. By the time I come to use that brush again it's started to go hard. Even though it's been thoroughly cleaned. Bloody annoying!


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I haven't tried the Fox brushes yet. Could be some filaments are better suited to the aqua.

I notice silvertips get a bit flayed after a while, but they look worse than they are.

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Out of curiosity Fitzy, are you using separate brushes for undercoat and gloss?


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Sometimes yes, sometimes no. Depends what I'm doing or even what mood I'm in.

I could be using two different brushes in both ie a 1.5 inch blaze on windows, and a 2 inch silvertip for sills.

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For the most part my go-to satin is Armstead QD. It covers really well, is reasonably priced and readily available, and doesn't eat brushes.

Gloss tends to be Dulux QD if sheen is important, and Bedec Aqua Gloss if not so.

Deccy, I know what you mean about the QD gear, but I came from using Jonnos Aqua, and it just monstered anything that went into it. The principal reason I dropped Jonnos was the way it destroyed brushes. Meths and hair conditioner help, but that's a ridiculous faff just to keep brushes going.

I'm still rather fond of Sikkens Rubbol BL primer and Rubbol BL Satura satin. The opacity isn't outstanding, though still pretty good, but what a finish is leaves!

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