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I recently purchased the evolution 5-S table saw. I wish to buy an additional blade for finer cuts preferably 60-80 teeth. I’ve looked on-line but cannot find anything suitable. Where would be the best place to look for a blade 255 x 25.4?


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Have you tried Saxton?

They've got a 60T 250mm, or an 80T 260mm if you can squeeze another 2.5mm in.

http://www.saxtonblades.co.uk/index.php ... lades-c-59

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Cheers Ayjay I forgot about them. They didn't show up in a Google search. I assume the 25mm bore would fit and the extra .4mm is negligible?


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just make sure the bore and kerf are the same
if the blade is thinner the wood may jamb up on the riving knife
and loosen the riving knife and add plastacene or chewing gum to the cutting edge off the blade to replicate a larger blade [plus 2mm ]and whilst unplugged spin by hand

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You can get a bore adaptor for a few quid of eBay. Trend do one that will accommodate a 25.4 blade.
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big-all wrote:
just make sure the bore and kerf are the same
if the blade is thinner the wood may jamb up on the riving knife
and loosen the riving knife and add plastacene or chewing gum to the cutting edge off the blade to replicate a larger blade [plus 2mm ]and whilst unplugged spin by hand


Presumably the kerf would only be affected if the new blades kerf was thinner than the original blade and the wood would stick on the riving knife? The kerf on the new blade is 2.8mm, the existing blade is 2mm. I assume this would be suitable?

Evolutions customer service said this when I asked them about replacement blades with more teeth:

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Unfortunately as this unit is a multipurpose machine we don't have blade available with 60-80 teeth. The only blade we recommend and that are suitable for the Rage 5-s would be as per below (no other manufactures blades are to be fitted due to our reduced RPM speed):

RAGEBLADE255MULTI - Bore 25.4mm, Teeth 28 (this is the one fitted as standard)
RAGEBLADE255WOOD - Bora 25.4mm, Teeth 40


The RPM speed of the Evolution saw is 2500. I cannot see the rpm rating of the Saxton blade I fancy. It only has a maximum rating of 5,300rpm but no minimum.

http://www.saxtonblades.co.uk/product_info.php/tct-circular-blade-250mm-60t-p-572

Do Evolution make a valid case to stick to their own brand or is it just a ploy to buy from them. The sceptic in me suggests the latter.


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freud blades?


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A riving knife should be thicker than the plate thickness and less than the kerf thickness. That's the main thing you've to remember when replacing the blade. Loads of very thin kerf blades are available now and are designed for cordless tools. A lot of people forget this when they replace a cordless blade and stick a thicker blade on and the riving knife becomes useless.


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steviejoiner74 wrote:
A riving knife should be thicker than the plate thickness and less than the kerf thickness.


Stevie what do you mean by plate thickness? What's the plate?


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if you knocked off all the teeth you left with the plate :wink:


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if you knocked off all the teeth you left with the plate :wink:

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Argyll wrote:
The RPM speed of the Evolution saw is 2500. I cannot see the rpm rating of the Saxton blade I fancy. It only has a maximum rating of 5,300rpm but no minimum.

Thdre is no such thing as a minimum speed - the maximum is stated so that you know how fast you can run it before the darned thing will potentially disintegrate. Really!

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Do Evolution make a valid case to stick to their own brand or is it just a ploy to buy from them. The sceptic in me suggests the latter.

No. If that were the case there would be no place for "independant" saw manufacturers such as Bennett or Atkinson-Walker (both in Sheffield) or Leitz (who incidentally make most of Festool's blades) would be out of business. The fact is that most machinery manufacturers buy in their blades from specialist blade manufacturers who are far better abl to provide a consistent, well-made product.

Your saw is a 10in (254mm) saw with a 1in (25.4mm) arbor. In Europe these are oddball dimensions because local manufacturers would be making 250 or 260mm saws with a 30mm arbor. I don't think the suggestion of going to a 260mm blade is so good, though. This is because whilst most table saws will happily accommodate blades as small as 60% of the nominal size, they often won't accommodate blades even a few millimeters larger than that nominal size. Often larger than spec. blades will foul on the under table blade guarding. One plus point about the saw size - there are lots of blades out there in 250 and 254mm sizes - although most will have a 30mm bore, so you'll need a 30mm to 1in (25.4mm) blade washer. And yes, that 0.4mm really is significant, so DON'T ask for a 30 to 25mm reducer/blade washer.

In terms of the tooth count I have to ask you what you want it for. On a 10in/250mm saw ripping of often best doen with a 12 to 24 tooth flat top tooth blade. For general use 36 to 48 teeth will suffice. For melamine faced chipboard or MDF it may be better to go to 48 to 60 teeth, but above 60 teeth the blad kerfs are so small that cutting depth actually becomes very limited (because the kerfs fill upwith waste and you can get scorching). TBH the manufacturers choices don't seem bad for the machine, although I'd be looking at something like a discounted DW, Bosch or Freud saw rather than an Evolution one - at least those three are made "in house" (Bosch actually own Freud these days)

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J&K I'd be using the 60 tooth blade to rip cut laminate flooring. The existing blade may be adequate but I always like to use more teeth when cutting melamine surfaces.


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Just ordered that blade with a 25.4mm reducer :thumbright:


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The blade will be knackered in no time ripping laminate flooring.
I'd use a hand saw or jigsaw. I laid 40m2 of laminate last week and it goosed 2 hand saws.



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