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Hi,

I have an Berger Lahr electric motor that I would like to get running. The motor is functional but the LED light needs to be replaced along with the switch.

I am hoping someone can confirm that the wiring is correct and help me by recommending a replacement switch and light (purchasable in the UK). There is a broken wire (highlighted in red) which comes from the motor. I believe this attaches to the middle terminal on the switch but if someone could clarify that that would be great!

I am planning on using new wire for all connections and would appreciate help in choosing the correct gauge.

Many thanks for your help in advance!!!

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Your light looks like a neon, NOT an LED (I presume its the green item?) better picture of said item would be nice.

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Hi,

Many thanks for pointing that out.

Do you have any information regarding my other questions?

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My security settings won't allow me to view the PDF.

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As for the wiring that depends on what each wire does / is for. As my signature says there is no such thing as Thou shalt put this wire here, Thou shalt put that wire there. That's why there are such things as wiring diagrams. I wish I could be more specific.

You have still not added a picture of the "light"

The switch looks like a common toggle switch.

What does the front of the "bits" look like, and what is it all for?

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Doing a bit of Googling.

http://www.abi.nl/assets/uploads/Downlo ... _RSM_E.pdf

There's a wiring diagram for an RSM63 12F there if you scroll down which may well be similar to yours which looks like its an RSM63 12NG
It looks as if it's a synchronous motor, which means there may be a feed to the rotor, and the stator.

Make a diagram of what you have there from the job itself, and then compare it to their diagram.

Don't take my word for it though. Make sure you have the right diagram / motor yourself. There may be a difference!

Best check with the maker if in any doubt.


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Hi,

Many thanks for all your help so far, it is really appreciated, also apologies for not replying sooner.

I have added a close up of the light, I hope that helps in identifying what type it is.

I have also added a picture of the front panel which shows the switch and the kettle lead input.

All help is much appreciated!

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That is a bog standard neon. Lots on ebay Click here

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Many thanks for clarifying that, any chance you know where I could get the switch from?

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ebay. its a toggle switch.

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ebay. its a toggle switch.

No it's not. The one fitted is a rotary switch - albeit doing the same function as a toggle switch :wink:

Since you can wire the motor to go in either direction you have to tell us what you want the wiring to be set for. Do you want to select forwards/backwards or just on/off?

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ebay. its a toggle switch.

No it's not. The one fitted is a rotary switch - albeit doing the same function as a toggle switch :wink:


:oops: Yes, the fact it has a knob as opposed to a lever on the front is a bit of give away.

But still get them on ebay. :wink: (But it does look like it only has 3 terminals, so a toggle switch may be a better option)

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Hi,

Thanks for the help. The switch just turns it on and off as it only has one direction of drive.

Do you have any links for 3 terminal rotary switches as I can't seem to find the right one.

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What colour wires do you have coming from the motor?

If you let me know I'll do a connection drawing for you.

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Hi,

Thank you so much for helping me out with this, it's very kind of you.

I've been trying to upload a PDF with pictures but for some reason it doesn't seem to be working so I will try to describe it to you.

They are two yellow wires, one red / white and one blue / white that come out of the motor. The two yellow wires are joined together and seem to go into the live connection on the IEC socket. The red / white wire connects to the capacitor and the blue / white wire has broken off, I am unsure were that is meant to go.

I will be replacing the neon light and switch and would appreciate any links for a new switch.

Many thanks again,

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