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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 9:13 am 
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Can anyone help identify an old style MK back box for sockets and switches? They are recessed boxes with a countersunk hole on each corner for fixing to the wall, used mostly on lathe and plaster walls I think. I'm adding sockets to an old house and want to use these if I can locate any.

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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 11:37 am 
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Do you mean a box that mounts on a wall behind the lath & plaster? If so, you'll need to measure the depth from the surface of the plaster to the wall and then buy an appropriate size metal back box - you don't need the specific MK ones.

If you're looking to fix them into the lath & plaster then you can get plasterboard/dry lining boxes that grip the plaster either side.


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do you mean the ones with the tabs on the side like the yanks still use, or do you mean the old mk face plates with 4 screws in the faceplates


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I think a photo is needed.

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Sorry I binned the old MK boxes I took out of this house, all made of wood, since house built 1954 they must have been from then, interesting but only kept some switches, all boxes broke trying to remove them so went in the bin.

Not sure I would want to use stuff from 1954? I could be better than stuff made today, however it also could be worse, I remember as a lad always using my cap in the farm to turn on light switches, as so often they became live, pre-1966 no earth on lights so that did not help.

The 13A socket and plug was developed during the war, so as original equipment the house must be post war. There were some double sockets with 4 screws mounted top and bottom, and I know it is now hard to get back boxes to suit, single back boxes still have screws holes top and bottom, I know as I have to bend them out of the way to fit some light switches and sockets.

I have never liked the plastic plaster board back boxes, don't like the way the lip can be seen after fitting, it depends on time, have used expanding foam and allowed it to set before putting the socket in, also glued in lumps of wood, all well and good for DIY where you can leave it to set and return latter, not much good when your paid by the hour.

Pre-war most sockets were surface mounted, often just above skirting, with cables held in metal cable clips, often painted over so looked like part of the skirting board moulding. Image this was the normal socket, there was no standard size back box, in the main to make it look as if we have old sockets we actually fit new stuff made to look old, this Image is a brand new socket made to look old.

If you either show pictures or say why you want the old stuff, maybe some one can direct you, often it is just knowing the right word to put in a google search. Like Retro instead of Old.


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Mk do some really nice designer stuff in the wood effect, you can get retro style sockets still but there not cheap

iirc weren't the wooden back boxes nicknamed match boxes

We had these in our house for many years till it was rewired (circa late 60's-70's)

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It's the ones with the mounting screws on each corner of the face so although the box is recessed the fixing is on the surface, if that makes sense.
I've used fast fit boxes when I've been stuck but I'd rather use the old style to match existing if at all possible.
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only thing I can think of it being is a really old Britmac

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Blimey Flash, have you got a socket museum at your house :lol:

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not my picture, but my granddad had large glass sweet jars full of old Bakelite and old electrical stuff - what I played with and took apart in my younger years (1980's)

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