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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2017 1:19 pm 
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Hello there
I have asked a similar question before, but this is a different Issue
I have a 5m x 7m Shed going up,
I am wanting to do foundations myself this time,
Foundation will be a strip foundation, concrete base dug in and either foundation blocks or brick on top, Ground is hard packed type 1 with 200mm(ish) soil and grass that's been there for a few years
I will be using 6x2 joists@4.8m(400mm spacing) and 4x2 studwork,
My question is..
As its 5m wide how many strips of foundation would be recommended, ??

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If you buy 47x145 C16 timber, the maximum span between foundation walls is 2.83 Metres.
Therefore you would require three foundation walls (one either side set in from the end and the third central to the other two)

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Kiln dried C16 regularized treated joist will be used
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Goose wrote:
Kiln dried C16 regularized treated joist will be used
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Just a point, 47x97 C16 has a maximum span of 1,71 Metres; but would require
Four(4) supporting foundation walls.
If you chose to put in an extra foundation, you could save yourself a few bob on timber.

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If its over 30 sq metres internally, I guess it falls under building regs?


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Notch1 wrote:
If its over 30 sq metres internally, I guess it falls under building regs?


Correct Notch1, and if it was slightly under, I guess it would not!


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Thanks for the help so far

Joists are done, now ready to start framing
Question now is regarding the framing
Help please
I have been given two bits of advice,
1. Frame out walls before laying ply sub floor,
2.lay ply sub floor then frame walls

Any advice here would be great

Goose


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davyp1 wrote:
Notch1 wrote:
If its over 30 sq metres internally, I guess it falls under building regs?


Correct Notch1, and if it was slightly under, I guess it would not!


Indeed!
:-) :-) :-)

I just mentioned it in case the OP had overlooked that and 5.0m x 7.0m could be over..........


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Notch1 wrote:
davyp1 wrote:
Notch1 wrote:
If its over 30 sq metres internally, I guess it falls under building regs?


Correct Notch1, and if it was slightly under, I guess it would not!


Indeed!
:-) :-) :-)

I just mentioned it in case the OP had overlooked that and 5.0m x 7.0m could be over..........


It was a good point Notch :-)


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Goose wrote:
Thanks for the help so far

Joists are done, now ready to start framing
Question now is regarding the framing
Help please
I have been given two bits of advice,
1. Frame out walls before laying ply sub floor,
2.lay ply sub floor then frame walls

Any advice here would be great

Goose


Hi Goose,

I would probably do it as follows:-

Draw up a working drawing - All elevations + door window sizes etc
Cut & make up all frames
Board floor area (to drg dims etc.
Place & prop the Front frame + screw/nail through sole plate
Place & fix next elevation (working clockwise)
Place & fix remaining elevations
Place & fix rafters/purlins etc.
Place & fix door/s & windows
Board walls
Board roof area
Fix roof covering + rainwater goods

Hope that helps some . . .

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Goose wrote:
I have been given two bits of advice,
1. Frame out walls before laying ply sub floor,
2.lay ply sub floor then frame walls

Any advice here would be great

Goose


If you frame the walls first, you'll need extra joists along two sides to take the edge of the ply floor.

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davyp1
I have all drawings and details
However you have aswered a couple of other questions i had
Thanks again

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Never even thought about that,
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