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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:32 am 
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Hello, first time on this forum but it looks like a good resource for ideas and answers.
I live in northern ireland and i am planning to do a some work at my house but im unsure of what is allowed or possible.
I would like to extend my driveway to park two cars side by side and get in and out without walking through the grass.
The ground slopes off so I think it would need a small wall / retaining wall to the left ( pic attached ) to finish it off, im thinking about a brick wall with piers, and if needed a hidden concrete retaining wall behind it. I dont think I need the kerb dropped, it would be better but not neccessary. I would like to put this wall "astride" the border line.
I would need put in a foundation for this wall and the lawn area ajoining me is owned and looked after by the management company. Has anyone any experience of doing a similar project. Where do I start, building control, architect, and who do I have to inform of work.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:35 am 
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I would like to build the wall as in figure 1 to maximize the driveway.


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In the future I would also like to continue this drive on through a new gate where this fence is and to a garage at the end of the garden. Again I think this would need a retaining wall, would I need to consult with neighbours about this or go with an L type foundation/ retaining wall ( extreme L type in pic below ).


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IMO,
1 = highly doubtful
2 = NO chance
3 = looks ok, probably needs checking with your neighbour before you dig the trench for the footings.
It may help establish a good working relationship if nothing else

4 = I foresee no problem - it might be worthwhile marking out the actual boundary with a very lightweight low fence = some wooden posts and some wire.
That would establish the boundary to avoid any poss disputes in the future.
Neighbours have cost themselves £1 000s over an inch or two of boundary..... :boxing: ... :angryfire:



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I know what you mean about disputes, not worth the hassle or money.
The neighbour in this case is the management company (in relation to the ground outside of the fence), this company is appointed by the home owners,
I might go and visit the management company with the plan and see what they think.


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Which 'plan' are you going to present, please?


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Ill be proposing a brick wall astride the border line, as in figure 1. It will give me the widest driveway possible and it will look the best imo. If a wall was put in when the estate was built that is where it would be. I know that they could still refuse it. Whatever the position of the wall, I will have to have their permission to put in the foundation.

I dont know much about this but I wonder would something like this be put to the shareholders/ homeowners or is it too trivial.


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I would like to put this wall "astride" the border line.


Get real: you can't build beyond the boundary line.

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ayjay wrote:
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I would like to put this wall "astride" the border line.


Get real: you can't build beyond the boundary line.


But if they were to agree to it and I built it and it was jointly owned as it would be 50/ 50 wall. I have no idea how all this works. I have only started to look into this now, its my first house and ive always lived on a farm.


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I was brought up on a farm and still frequent farm auctions (Often).

Two vastly different 'worlds', or possibly farmers exist on a different planet in a separate solar system.
Stick to option 4 and my amendment, why don't you?... :salute:
I've done it - and my neighbours still complained.
They didn't have a leg to stand on.


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I would like to put this wall "astride" the border line.


Get real: you can't build beyond the boundary line.


But if they were to agree to it and I built it and it was jointly owned as it would be 50/ 50 wall.


You need to look beyond that to when your current neighbour moves elsewhere and a new one says "What's happened to the boundary? It appears to have moved."

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A new neighbour of mine is experiencing that, AyJay
The neighbour next his newly acquired house had somewhat taken advantage of the two elderly and infirm gents who were the previous occupants. A wall had been built as per Option 2 above, plus a 'bit'.
The position was challenged by the new owner - verbal agreement was cited

"A verbal contract isn't worth the paper it's written on"

A trapezium shaped piece of land of approx 1m x 30m x 3m has been reclaimed, one wall demolished and a second built on still disputed land.
A claim for re-turfing the repossessed land is pending.
Stick to Option 4+ Sharp1, please. :hello2:


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ayjay wrote:
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ayjay wrote:
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I would like to put this wall "astride" the border line.


Get real: you can't build beyond the boundary line.


But if they were to agree to it and I built it and it was jointly owned as it would be 50/ 50 wall.


You need to look beyond that to when your current neighbour moves elsewhere and a new one says "What's happened to the boundary? It appears to have moved."


As regards this piece of ground, it is owned by the management company for the site. I am a shareholder in this company and pay fees every year the same as an apartment block as far as I am aware. ( just to let you know, I dont feel I have more control or power over them because of this).

So there will be no change of neighbour to dispute in the future.

I am arranging a meeting with them as regards this.


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just found this:

"Line of junction notice template (new wall astride the boundary)

Take a look at the documents you can create for this issue
Line of junction notice template to be used by a building owner who wants to build:

a new wall astride a boundary; or
a party fence wall astride a boundary.
The line of junction notice template anticipates the scenario that, if the adjoining owner does not consent to the proposed works, the building owner is entitled to:

build the new wall or party fence wall entirely on their own land; and
place footings or foundations on their neighbour's land (with compensation payable for any damaged caused)."

https://www.simplifythelaw.co.uk/template-docs/party-walls/line-of-junction-notice-template-new-wall-astride


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