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 Post subject: House rewire
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 9:04 pm 
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During house rewire, if I ask the electrician to install 2 fused spurs (1 at the front of the house, 1 at the rear of the house) internally, these to be on a separate MCB with the intention of fitting outside lights at a later date. When that date arrives will I be able to do this work myself, ie wire from fused spur to a switch to a light. Or do I have to get a " competent Person" back to do it.


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 Post subject: Re: House rewire
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The rules are so poorly written it is hard to give a 100% answer for many Part P questions. Theory is a circuit is the wiring formed from the overload device to the current using equipment so I would say reading BS7671 until you fit wires into the FCU no circuit exists so unless the FCU has a neon then there is a circuit and then your only modifying an existing circuit that's how daft it is because Part P has not defined the words they use. Most would not consider any notifying is required when wiring to a FCU they regard it like a plug.
The are special pre-made socket systems for Wales made to defeat the work in garden rules now removed in England, but you have to remove and refit the plug to get wires into the house, so again it needs some interpreting of Part P.
What is required is case law, i.e. some one is taken to court and then what the court decides is used to decide what is meant by the law, however I don't think anyone has been taken to court for anything but claiming they where Part P registered when they were not. There have always been laws about warranty of skill and in the main anyone claiming to be an electrician and doing a sub-standard job is taken to court for not showing a warranty of skill.

So in the real world owner occupiers can do what they want, there is no one to catch them, and even if they are caught, no one who is going to bother taking them to court. Where it all changes is rented property, courts love to take land lords to task. So with rented you need all the installation certificates, all the minor works certificates and the person issuing them needs insurance cover.

Since you don't say England, Scotland or Wales there is no real answer as each has different rules. But I would not worry fitting a FCU and outside lights.


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Thanks.
Its in England actually.
I agree the Part P wording is very vague & open to interpretation, that was the reason for the question.
So I will ask for FCU's with a neon, and then 'modify' the circuits myself.


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:roll: :roll: TSK::: just do it. (assuming you feel happy/competent to work on very basic electrics)

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