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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:53 pm 
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The electric is there and the thermostat is triggering the boiler which seems as if its trying to start up but in the window all i can see is a blue spark which keeps sparking but no flame - help please

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The pilot solenoids on these were a common fault. Either that or a blocked pilot.

The fault is probably best left to an RGI to sort out for safety reasons, sorry.

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ok thanks rio. I wasnt gonna attempt fix myself, but had a bad experience with a plumber who told me i would need a new power shower when the fault was actually the brushes in the motor!! so just wanted to try and get myself a bit of info first

any idea on cost of this type of repair - ball park

thinking of going for bg's fixed price repair which is £168, any thoughts on that


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About £80 to service it and clear a blocked pilot is about right in my area.

If it is the solenoid, possibly the complete gas valve i would go for the fixed price repair.

The gas is defo turned on isnt it :roll:

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So we may never know what was the problem or how he got it fixed.

Does British Gas still do fixed price repairs on these?

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Who seriously thinks a bg engineer would actually bother to get the tools out for one of these???


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I asked a BG yesterday and he said they still go and repair them!

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I would gladly reapir a Netaheat. I have the Gas valves (for the MKII and the Electronic), fans, earthing brackets, PCB's and the odd Heat Ex kicking about in my lock-up. I still service about 10 of them every year, and replace the heat ex gaskets when required.

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Perhaps you are semi retired or very short of work!

To service them PROPERLY is a very time consuming task and in many cases comes up with a corroded case or failed case seals and the job cannot be completed ( or often charged for ).

In fact I tell people that if its working properly then its best left untouched and the service price put towards a replacement within the next year or two.

The problem is if you service such an old boiler then there is always a big chance that something will fail shortly afterwards and YOU will be blamed just because you serviced it.

When saying that I am primarily thinking of the mercury switch variant where the spare part is not generally available although we do have a new one for any of our customers.

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Agile wrote:
Perhaps you are semi retired or very short of work!

To service them PROPERLY is a very time consuming task and in many cases comes up with a corroded case or failed case seals and the job cannot be completed ( or often charged for ).

In fact I tell people that if its working properly then its best left untouched and the service price put towards a replacement within the next year or two.

The problem is if you service such an old boiler then there is always a big chance that something will fail shortly afterwards and YOU will be blamed just because you serviced it.

When saying that I am primarily thinking of the mercury switch variant where the spare part is not generally available although we do have a new one for any of our customers.

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Tony,

The Mercury Vapour Valve was on the Mark I.

I have serviced them for years and never had a problem. I generally put a smoke bomb in the 'Outer Flue' when the boiler is operating. I also run a CO detector around the case once serviced to ensure no 'spillage' from the case seal. Ive seen a few that have burnt through on base of the boiler (in the area of the pilot / earthing bracket assy). - ID and replace boiler.

Case seals repairs are far more common on the Ideal WRS IMO.

And no, Im not near retirement or desperate for work.... I just look after my customers boilers. I spend 2 hours on a Netaheat, and will continue to do so.

I fail so see how an old boiler should not be serviced. I have a car built in the 1970's that is still serviced / repaired.

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Fair play to you Skip and :welcome:

As long as you condemn all those old servowarms........

Like the Scruffs :lol: :lol:


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The Elite 50e, one of the best boilers ever made. :lol: :thumbright:


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I went to repair a Servowarm a couple of weeks ago.

It had a radiator at the front instead of a case!

It also had a flint for lighting the pilot light!


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Agile wrote:
I went to repair a Servowarm a couple of weeks ago.

It had a radiator at the front instead of a case!

It also had a flint for lighting the pilot light!


Hope you changed the O rings on the nipples :roll:


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I have been told off before for touching nipples so I left them alone. Also been advised the "O" rings are no longer available and so I did not attempt to move the rad at all.

Of course I did change the flint in the lighter.

Oddly there was an o/h stat tied near the top with a piece of wire.

That may have been added as an afterthought although the boiler is on an open vent system and probably not suitable for a sealed system.

Does anyone know why that was there and where it should have been fitted if it was a makers idea?

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