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Hi

Given my speed and gas this is not going to be a DIY job. As the gas fire has broken down and it is time to get someone to fix it, it makes me think time to get on with central heating too.

Trying to find what has been recommended in the past, thescruff has recommended Intergas. A friend that has lived in Holland suggest to look at Dutch manufacturers, what a coincidence.

Intergas or something else guys?

Is there somewhere some reliable formula to allow me to calculate what size boiler I need, what size radiators per room etc. (Unfortunately scruff's sticky link on the top of the thread is broken).

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Intergas are recommended by several Forum members. Retired had one fitted a few years ago.

Razor is the man when it comes to all things Intergas.

I'll get one when our 1980 potterton fails and spares are no longer available...

As for the link :dunno: Scruff hasn't been on lately... any decent gas safe engineer should be able spec the rads and boiler.

Where abouts are you Och-aye ??? I'm guessing Scotland from your user name. :lol:

EDIT Just noticed Dundee from your profile :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:

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wine~o wrote:
Intergas are recommended by several Forum members. Retired had one fitted a few years ago.
Thank you, good to hear. It was the thread with Retired that Google found on this site.

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Razor is the man when it comes to all things Intergas.
I will give him a heads up in due course.

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Where abouts are you Och-aye ??? I'm guessing Scotland from your user name. :lol:

EDIT Just noticed Dundee from your profile :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:
Scotchland :huray: of course, and I should have spelled my name AuchAye so you Southerners would not have a clue. Only problem is, I prefer wine, it is easier on me :lol:


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Any comments please on the following two questions.

- Baxi boilers EcoBlue advance or Platinum, are they OK or should I run away from them?
- Similar question for Stelrad radiators (Vita Deco models for the little extra money) are they OK?

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Stelrad radiators are among the best. Can't comment on the Baxi. Stelrad used to have a calculator on their site regards rads... stelrad stars or summat ?

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Should have mentioned I'm biased.. Stelrad were based in Verwood or at least had some manufacturing units literally on the road I currently live on. They moved on to a different site in the late 80's or early 90's. Their sports and social club is still there though.

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Be as biased as you want. Better than something made in China from recycled Heinz beanz tinz. I appreciate your comment more than you think, because now I can stop looking at different makes. Vogue towel rail company to be approached next week ;-) and no doubt I already have some weird questions for ultimatehandyman :huray:

As far as being biased goes, I got a Carron tap for the kitchen (I have passed the factory once somewhere next to a river Carron :mrgreen: ) not knowing that it was owned by Franke. And the b..st..rds closed down the remnants of the company anyway. The tap is still brand new in the box but I wanted a brushed chromium plated tap as opposed to the usual shiny things. A project for sometime in the future when I get a matching sink ;-) and a new kitchen to go with it.


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wine~o wrote:
Stelrad radiators are among the best. Can't comment on the Baxi. Stelrad used to have a calculator on their site regards rads... stelrad stars or summat ?

Yes Stelrad Stars is correct.

The only digital calculator that worked IMO, all by the time one had entered all the details I could gave all the answers on my old Mears calculator.

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BTW. I know I don't want plastic pipes (I have the occasional mouse because I have cats). I kind of pick as I go along that some use 8, 10 or 15mm pipes. Cost of pipes and labour aside, is the size of pipes something that relates to the boiler or the choices made are purely on cost?


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Plastic fantastic is cheaper... but imho is sh1t.

Depending on your boiler and size of house ....then 15mm Copper to / from each rad fed via 22 mm flow / return to the boiler.

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2 bedrooms (one used as bedroom one as dinning room/throw everything in), living room = 3 radiators.
Bathroom (that is my designer by me piece) will probably get a vertical radiator costing me more then the rest but such is life.
Hallway and kitchen have no space for a radiator although I may create space in the hall sometime in the future;.
Upstairs is a kind of converted loft I would like a radiator either to be used at very low temperatures or when I want to be upstairs. The upstairs radiator will be along the natural run of the pipes so it is not much of an issue.
Boiler will have to upstairs or I am looking at different gas people until I find one that will do what I want. I got full access under the ground floor, and round the eaves if my knees can take it.
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Is there some kind of distributor unit that is used to go to/from each radiator, or is it all done like a ring circuit with spurs for each radiator?

I can see me taking the next two years bending and soldering pipes (only problem is I would not solder upstairs too risky for a fire) or just pay and have it done. The more I learn the more the chances of doing my own thing :-)


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As wino says, 22mm from the boiler, then t off in 15mm to each rad.

Maximum of 4kw to radiators on a 15 mm pipe run.

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gas4you wrote:
As wino says, 22mm from the boiler, then t off in 15mm to each rad.

Maximum of 4kw to radiators on a 15 mm pipe run.


Can you or wine~o give me an idea of what is the distribution unit like (a link or a name) when we come to the end of the 22mm run?


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Depends what rads you have, but all you will need is a 22x15x15 t, no special fitting.

The other rads will probably need to t off with a 22x22x15 t. Hard to say exactly without a pipe run diagram.

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