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 Post subject: Thunderbird and spam
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I use Thunderbird email on Ubuntu and need to have a simple facility to mark incoming emails as spam for subsequent auto-deletion.

Is there any facility or add-on that allows you to right-click a received email and mark it and all future such emails from that address as spam and auto-block and/or delete?

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I use Thunderbird, I click on the "Junk" button, although it doesn't delete it at first.

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Despite marking stuff as junk it still shows in the inbox and they have to be deleted manually. I'm trying to do this and even set up a few rules to make it happen - but it doesn't appear to be acknowledging the rules!

Rules aside - which are a pain to set up - I'd prefer to just right-click and mark them as 'forever to be considered junk and all such are subsequently auto-deleted'. Too much to ask of it or an add-on? I can imagine them not really wanting to create such an app as it destroys advertising revenue!

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drag and drop them into the bin/spam folder ? are you running 'junk mail control' (function of TB) ?

I use TB for Hotmail as WLM no longer supports it (Win 10)


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I don't think there's an easy way to do it with Thunderbird - I've used it for many years without finding a way - the filters work well once you've sussed out how to set them up make them work properly.

Hotmail (now Outlook) is the best I've used for spam control - just click in the appropriate place and block all emails from that address - it's still not perfect cos the spammers change their address, which is where the filters in Thunderbird can work better if you've selected a relevant part of the content to use as a filter.

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I used to use Outlook but don't think it'll run under Ubuntu.

Even after setting up the Thunderbird filters it still seemed to allow spam through - I know I got the exact details right (the right words to invoke the filter) but I can put the emails back into my inbox and run the so-called filter and they STAY in the inbox ::b

Alternatives to Thunderbird will be considered if I can't get it to deal with the spam in a responsible manner.

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kellys_eye wrote:

Even after setting up the Thunderbird filters it still seemed to allow spam through - I know I got the exact details right (the right words to invoke the filter) but I can put the emails back into my inbox and run the so-called filter and they STAY in the inbox ::b



If you only have an inbox, I'd not like to speculate why the filters aren't working, but if you have different local folders you have to set up the filters for whichever folder is getting the spam.

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The junk mail control works for me and its self learning


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I might be misunderstanding the function of this facility then???

When I open my inbox I see the list of emails - many of which are marked with that orange 'crab claw' (?? dunno what it is really :dunno: ) but hovvering over the symbol tells me it's 'marked as junk status'.

But I don't want to SEE the junk mail in my inbox - if it's marked as junk, why does it still appear? Why isn't it just thrown in the deleted bin? I though this was the purpose behind 'junk' - or have I got this entirely wrong?

What is the point of the software marking it as junk but not doing anything with it and making ME manually delete it from my inbox?

Maybe there's a setting that I've missed that tells the program to auto-delete the stuff it's determined is junk???

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The emails that are caught by the filters on mine are marked as "read" and go straight into the *Deleted* folder.

I have to manually empty the deleted folder.

That does at least allow you to glance through them to check for erroneously deleted emails, because although I try to be careful with the filter wording some can end up as catch-alls and delete wanted emails.

I have also in the past just abandoned some email addresses, the worst one was getting over 500 spams per week. I just stopped using it and made a new one.

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iirc its under tools - options - security - Junk (tab) that allows anything marked as junk to be automatically deleted



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Ah ha! It's under edit-account-settings AND under edit-preferences. I've enabled the junk status on both options so will see how it reacts to subsequent emails received.

Thanks for the pointer :thumbright:

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Just be careful Kellys. the last thing you want is an important e-mail slipping into junk/spam.

I had one in my spam folder just yesterday from some-one in Burkina faso; it turns out that I'm the long lost relative of some-one who died in a plane crash and all I need to do to claim my multi-million dollar inheritance is to provide my bank account details...

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I'm getting LOADS of spam from companies offering hearing aids, Alzheimer advice, dementia advice, SAGA, arthritis research etc...

I wonder what they're hinting at? :dunno:







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You can train thunderbird by marking emails as spam (one of the columns you have to click)[*] As it learns it will start automatically putting them in the spam folder (or whatever is its name on your installation). You can create filters that delete messages, I personally think it is too high a risk that you may delete messages you would rather have kept.

I have had on and off problems at work with people not receiving my emails ... it is easy enough to create daft filters.

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[*] I would mark and then move to the spam folder afterwards as I am not exactly sure how it learns.


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