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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:48 pm 
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Seen alot of threads throwing £300 £400 a room around and tbh i think that is a toshing price and is in essence detrimental to our prices!!!!!

The paying public come on here and see that and think thats it £300 for a room.

To many variables to give an answer in my opinion!

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The average room (a bit of filling, rubbing down woodwork, two coats on the ceiling, two coats on the walls, two coats on the door, skirting, rad, window sill) takes me a day and a half. I only charge for full days so that's 2 days @ £150 per day = £300. Plus materials.

Non-average rooms (e.g. lots of prep, landings with six doors, etc.) are more.

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The paying public come on here and see that and think thats it £300 for a room.


You are right. I had a lady call me and ask what the "average" was per room. I explained that I need to see the room to give an accurate quote. She was fairly persistent so I explained the above. She said that was fine and that she had an average room that she wanted me to go and look at and give a proper quote. When I turned up, the "average" room that she though she had was in fact a lunge and dining room that had been knocked in to one room, so twice the "average" size, it needed the old wallpaper taken off, lining paper hung, and painted, plus the ceiling, two doors, etc. She didn't seem to understand when I explained that this was far from the average room and that it would be a six day job rather than the two day "average" she thought it would be. However, I don't know if it was my charm (or maybe my snazzy fanny-magnet dressing down :lol: ) but she called me today to accept the quote and dropped off the deposit this evening. Strange ... very strange.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 7:21 pm 
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I've quoted for work when I've been recommended.

On reading my quote the customer rang to say " you only charged so much for my friends staircase. How come mine is more?"

Reason being totally different size jobs and spec.

I often wonder how they think we work prices out.


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I know what you mean Fordy, but there is also a flip side. Somepeople are being had over by unsavory types and paying way above the odds for a shi77y job. So to see on "average" what decent honest decs "roughly" charge is a plus.

At the end of the day most posts say "on average" or "about" so there is nothing hard and fast written on here I don't think. It's mainly the moronic customers who have no common sense that see a figure posted on a forum and take it as gospel.

There are always variables that cannot be ascertained without seeing a job and even doing a little investigation.


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fordy wrote:
Seen alot of threads throwing £300 £400 a room around and tbh i think that is a toshing price and is in essence detrimental to our prices!!!!!

The paying public come on here and see that and think thats it £300 for a room.

To many variables to give an answer in my opinion!

Discuss!

:withstupid: Just done a bedroom ,strip walls,prep ceiling,walls and woodwork.Lined walls ,painted ceiling and walls two coats woodwork undercoated and top glossed and it was quite a bit more then £400..
Got a Deccy mate who I call scooter feet,runs around with a roller stuck up his arse,electric heaters on the woodwork so he can get another coat on quick for what so he can two or three jobs a week.Sorry i would not be asked to work like that.


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Tom d'Angler wrote:
The average room (a bit of filling, rubbing down woodwork, two coats on the ceiling, two coats on the walls, two coats on the door, skirting, rad, window sill) takes me a day and a half. I only charge for full days so that's 2 days @ £150 per day = £300. Plus materials.

Non-average rooms (e.g. lots of prep, landings with six doors, etc.) are more.

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The paying public come on here and see that and think thats it £300 for a room.


You are right. I had a lady call me and ask what the "average" was per room. I explained that I need to see the room to give an accurate quote. She was fairly persistent so I explained the above. She said that was fine and that she had an average room that she wanted me to go and look at and give a proper quote. When I turned up, the "average" room that she though she had was in fact a lunge and dining room that had been knocked in to one room, so twice the "average" size, it needed the old wallpaper taken off, lining paper hung, and painted, plus the ceiling, two doors, etc. She didn't seem to understand when I explained that this was far from the average room and that it would be a six day job rather than the two day "average" she thought it would be. However, I don't know if it was my charm (or maybe my snazzy fanny-magnet dressing down :lol: ) but she called me today to accept the quote and dropped off the deposit this evening. Strange ... very strange.

maybe its because you lunge at her mate :wink: :wink:


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The paying public come on here and see that and think thats it £300 for a room.


Of the variables mentioned (most of which are connected with prep I expect) one variable is the public themselves.

There is a sector of the public, that believe anything and everything they read. They will quibble about price down to pennies. Truth is, perhaps they shouldn't even be contacting decorators at all! To avoid this problem, maybe we should be marketing our businesses away from rubbish work like this in the first place.


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vmaybe its because you lunge at her mate


I like a good lunge, me.


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Tom d'Angler wrote:
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I like a good lunge, me.


Just make sure you don't have a paint-loaded roller in your hand at the time.


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[quote="Tom d'Angler"]The average room (a bit of filling, rubbing down woodwork, two coats on the ceiling, two coats on the walls, two coats on the door, skirting, rad, window sill) takes me a day and a half. I only charge for full days so that's 2 days @ £150 per day = £300. Plus materials.

Non-average rooms (e.g. lots of prep, landings with six doors, etc.) are more.
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What is the average room Tom, 5m x 4m 5m x 5.5m 6m x5.5m There is NO such thing, every house is different in shape and size.

It is impossbile to quote an exact amount without physically seeing each job

So can we stop quoteing missleading figures on here everyone


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The difference between a large bedroom in a crumbling victorian terrace and a small bedroom in a 1970's house with flush doors and small skirting, artex ceilings and decent plaster is so vast, that an average is pointless.

In order to structure the public's expectations, £ 250 to paint an average sized room which is empty, has no carpet, needs no prep and is double glazed. The problem is that average size does not always mean average time. Picture rails, dados, large skirting, gloss or eggshell????


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jozeffo wrote:
The difference between a large bedroom in a crumbling victorian terrace and a small bedroom in a 1970's house with flush doors and small skirting, artex ceilings and decent plaster is so vast, that an average is pointless.

In order to structure the public's expectations, £ 250 to paint an average sized room which is empty, has no carpet, needs no prep and is double glazed. The problem is that average size does not always mean average time. Picture rails, dados, large skirting, gloss or eggshell????



Exactamundo Mr Jozeffo!


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Exactly Jozeffo, thats the point I was trying to make. no such thing as average


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And people still come on the phone, saying "Can you give me an idea of the price, or do you need to see the room?" :wtf: ::b ::b

"Yeah, hang on while i get my Crystal Ball out". Duck Eggs!! :angryfire:


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i hate when you go measure up, and they are like "what roughly will it cost" ? ::b

i hate being put on the spot like that, i always say i need to work it all out


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