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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 10:51 am 
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Hi Guys, looks like after losing my static in what looked like a biblical flood I'm going to be a keen grdener! or should it be I will be doing more to the back garden than i have done in the past, looks like the last of my fencing was sailing in the wind yesterday so it's nearly a clean chalkboard!
First question is, I took down all my tree's 3 weekes ago and as advised I have drilled some holes in perperation for the insertion of deisel! three sources have advised this including a landscpaer/gardner so ready to go on that unless anyone on here has an alternative method, sorry no scope for explosives! had a relative in Australia who used this to clear stumps on his land.


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You can hire a machine that grinds the stump to below ground level.

http://www.hss.com/blog/all-you-need-to-know-about-stump-grinders/

Drilling a hole and pouring in diesel is an old proven way but it contaminates the earth and you may have problems growing stuff later. There's a chemical you can use that is more powerful. I think it's called sulphamate but it's banned in the Uk but you can still buy it on ebay. It makes your soil slightly more acidic but less damaging than diesel.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AMMONIUM-SULPHAMATE-ROOT-OUT-1KG-/172103020493?hash=item281223afcd:g:JZ0AAOSweW5VZF~G


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The only sure way is to dig them out.

I've heard, but not experienced, that hammering copper nails into the stump also kills it off. Depends on how long you're prepared to wait before reusing the land. You'll also be surprised how darned resilient stumps can be for regrowing!

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What's wrong with explosives? There's nothing like the sight of a stump rising three foot in the air, blowing a big smoke ring and then, dammit, dropping right back in the bloody hole it was in ...

How big are the stumps?


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:shock: Perhaps that's how they do things in Oz ??

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What's wrong with explosives? There's nothing like the sight of a stump rising three foot in the air, blowing a big smoke ring and then, dammit, dropping right back in the bloody hole it was in ...

How big are the stumps?



Big enough if your digging them out!


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The only sure way is to dig them out.

I've heard, but not experienced, that hammering copper nails into the stump also kills it off. Depends on how long you're prepared to wait before reusing the land. You'll also be surprised how darned resilient stumps can be for regrowing!


The copper nails thing came up on another forum I use and several posters said that it was pretty much a fallacy. I've tried it once and it had no effect.
As you say digging out is the best way. Hopefully there's a decent length still sticking out of the ground that can be used as a lever for loosening the root. More difficult if there isn't. I have used an engine hoist before now but it's heavy , bulky and not always easy to get in place. For tools I use mattocks and spades and find a reciprocating saw can be a great help.


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Farm jack and a length of chain for me - brilliant versatile tool.


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Farm jack and a length of chain for me - brilliant versatile tool.


Done that too, very effective, but best done when the stump is dead or has been some time. The diesel trick does work, but I was told it does not contaminate soil because it stays in the tree and cannot pass the "wrong way" into the ground. Paraffin or Creosote also work.

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Hi,

I've dug lots of big stumps out with the aid of a 9 ton bottle jack. For small stumps like hedging I use a long scaffolding tube on a fulcrum to simply pop then out saving lots of work. Stumps are hard graft.

About three years ago I felled two 80' conifers but the stumps remain; they will eventually rot away. :thumbleft:

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The diesel trick does work, but I was told it does not contaminate soil because it stays in the tree and cannot pass the "wrong way" into the ground. Paraffin or Creosote also work.


I'm afraid you have been misinformed. A countryside ranger I work beside told me it does contaminate the soil and you can be fined if caught. Very unlikely you would be caught but there you go.


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I'm afraid you have been misinformed. A countryside ranger I work beside told me it does contaminate the soil and you can be fined if caught. Very unlikely you would be caught but there you go.



It's quite likely I was mis-informed, it was only "some bloke" who did a bit of road works and landscaping who told me. I asked my daughter about it last night(she's doing A level Biology) and she said "I wouldn't like to say- and went on about water gradient and osmosis, so I'm still none the wiser. However I shall take your advice.

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I'm afraid you have been misinformed. A countryside ranger I work beside told me it does contaminate the soil and you can be fined if caught. Very unlikely you would be caught but there you go.



It's quite likely I was mis-informed, it was only "some bloke" who did a bit of road works and landscaping who told me. I asked my daughter about it last night(she's doing A level Biology) and she said "I wouldn't like to say- and went on about water gradient and osmosis, so I'm still none the wiser. However I shall take your advice.


The lassie I worked beside is top notch. She has 3 degrees (not the group) in various biology thingy's. If I ever have any questions regarding stuff like this I ask her.

Her only drawback is she's a Fifer :-)


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Stumps are really handy for resting fuel cans for transferring diesel to a smaller can so it is easier to carry around to the diesel LandRover or tractor you probably expect to use nearby, (just be careful you don't accidentally spill the diesel down the holes you bored into stumps to allow natural rain water to rot it away!) In fact I would transfer some fuel on different stumps every time. That way you are avoiding polluting soil nearby by using a stump and by moving from stump to stump you alleviate the risk in any one spot ... I would also place a funnel in the drilled holes to stop it falling on ground. Any greeny would agree with you it is always best to protect the environment when taking away lovely trees that unfortunately get in the way.

My Council in Oz employed someone every year or so to check Google earth photos to see if any trees removed and levy fines. We got round that by planting other tubestock replacement trees bought for a few pence each from Council Nursery and receipted and recorded. Unfortunately the Council also called a statutory drought and despite heroic efforts with waste bath-tub water the replacements didn't grow. So hard keeping an environmental balance today. We should go back to living in caves?


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jape wrote:
What's wrong with explosives? There's nothing like the sight of a stump rising three foot in the air, blowing a big smoke ring and then, dammit, dropping right back in the bloody hole it was in ...


:lol:

More seriously, I know 2 lads who, on separate occasions, hurt themselves very badly with explosives while removing stumps. Both had a lot of experience with the stuff too. One is now in a wheelchair for life, and the other one nearly lost a leg and is still under treatment several years later.

I find that hiring a stump grinder is the best and cheapest way, although it is very dangerous too, obviously. Go for the stump, but also for the roots around it. If there are too many stumps and/or they are too big, then just hire a professional. Odds are, they'll come with their own stump grinder.

Regardless of the method you choose, the end results will also depend on the trees that were taken down. Some trees almost always produce seedlings after being taken down - prepare to pull them as you go. Also prepare for mushrooms to have a field day later on, as they feed on the decaying wood underneath the soil surface. If you're confident, look for ceps - they love rotting wood :huray:


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