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 Post subject: Staircase Advice
PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:19 pm 
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Hi,

I am new to the forum and was hoping the someone could offer me some advice on the best way forward to update my staircase.

I am about to renovate the hallway in my house and as such would like to modernise the old staircase. The photo below shows what I have at the moment...

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What I would like to achieve is a look something similar to the following (ignore the fact that the pic is a different design) with one exception being that I intend to carped over the treads so would not be looking for oak...

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I would like the finished stair to be a closed string, can anyone tell me if I would be best to convert the current setup to achieve this or is it more sensible to renew the staircase?
I intend to renew the hand rails, newels etc but it seems a bit wasteful to rip out the backbone of the staircase and treads as they seem pretty sturdy and will no doubt be replaced by cheap pine or MDF.
I am aware that there are building regulations for the tread and riser so this is something else I don't want to get wrong if I was to add risers to close the open tread.

Thanks for any advice,

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Alan.


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It's easy enough to make it a closed string, cut back the overhanging treads and fit a false string to the outside.

The problem with fitting new handrails and balustrading to this staircase is that your existing newels are probably planted on the side of the string and not central to it. If you can overcome that, or put up with it being offset it's do-able.

With regards to the existing risers and building regs, (and any subsequent balustrading) the requirement is that a 100mm diameter ball can't be passed through any gaps.

If you had a new staircase built you can specify exactly what you want it made from, there's no need to have mdf or cheap pine treads if you don't want them. Just be sure to specify exactly what you do want and put it in writing.
If you plan to carpet it anyway it probably doesn't really matter. I personally dislike mdf treads, but that's more from a fitting pov, (they're prone to splitting if you tap the risers in a bit too enthusiastically).

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Hi,

Sorry for the delay in replying, things have been a bit hectic.

Thanks for the advice on this. Thats a good point regarding the offset newels, to be honest I didn't even consider that.

Bearing that in mind I'm thinking that I may be as well getting a price for a new staircase. I have no idea how much it would cost so a quotation is probably a good starting point to help me make a decision.

Is there any particular supplier you could recommend for this? I'd be happy enough building it myself, I'm guessing they all get shipped out as flatpack anyway.

Thanks again,

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AlMac wrote:

Is there any particular supplier you could recommend for this? I'd be happy enough building it myself, I'm guessing they all get shipped out as flatpack anyway.



There is probably a specialist manufacturer in you area, (around here it's usually http://www.stairwayjoinery.co.uk/ ) but failing that any joinery workshop will be able to make a staircase for you.

The straight flights should be already assembled and ready to fit, although the newels and handrails will be loose, don't forget to fit the handrails as you go. Any winders or Bullnosed bottom treads or anything else that's not a straight flight are left loose and fitted on site, everything should be supplied for this, wedges, glue blocks and dowels etc. It should have been assembled dry in the joiners shop and should all fit.

Any newels will have to be altered to fit around the trimmer at the top, and possibly on the half landing.

Unless you specifically ask, it's unlikely that anything will be supplied for the half landing to match your existing staircase.

Winders are horrible things to fit the first time you do it - you'll think they need cutting down, they don't, they will fit, (can't see any winders on your current staircase, so just for future info).

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sorry mate but buildingflights of stairs are not diy jobs to my mind.you could clad the newels but be well careful about cutting them especialy the middle newels, same with treads an risers you could lose the regs ratios an make the steps unsafe.


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Thanks for the help folks. I think I'll get some quotes on a new staircase and take it from there. It has given me plenty to think about at the moment.

Cheers for the input and advice given.


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