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Hi All,

My stairs are in desperate need of repair! Almost all the treads Squeak when you stand on them and a number of them are split, manually the winder treads at the bottom.

I was thinking of replacing the treads but they are closed treads. Know I am thinking of putting two blocks screwed to the riser and tread from underneath them glueing/ pinning some thin ply to the top of the treads. My only cornering is how that would feel at the nose of the tread when the carpet is laid.

Would this be the best repair or is there a better way?

Any help would be apprenticed

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 6:29 pm 
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can you get underneath

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Yes I have full access to underneath. At present none of the treads/ riser have glue blocks attached, only attached by the slots I’m the stringers


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do you have a picture

you should have tight wedges to the side no gaps at the back off the tread
you dont need blocks under the nosing iff properly slotted glued and pinned

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Here is a picture from the top and underneath


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Starting point would be blocks behind where risers and tread meet. Glued with d4 type expanding glue. Perhaps pilot, countersink and screw through top of tread into riser beforehand to tighten up.


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most damage i have found is through carpet fitters thinking its ok to butcher the strength off the stairs by forcing the carpet between the back off the tread and the riser :scratch:

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oz0707 wrote:
Starting point would be blocks behind where risers and tread meet. Glued with d4 type expanding glue. Perhaps pilot, countersink and screw through top of tread into riser beforehand to tighten up.


Hi,

Sorry that’s what I meant regarding putting blocks behind the risers.

The splits in the winders are quite large, more than 3mm wide and move a lot when you put pressure on them. As they are at the bottom would I be able to build a support frame under the winders for extra strength instead off covering them with ply?

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yes a common form off repair on kite wynders
keep in mind anything you are trying to store or indeed set up as a frame to attach a end panel to
when boarding under the stairs

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Once I’ve support it from underneath with a frame and blocks would you suggest covering the top of treads with ply?


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shouldnt be nessisery
you would have to do all treads to stop a trip hazard

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Thank you for all the advise, I plan on doing a support frame for the wynders and fitting the glue blocks in hopefully this weekend and not covering the top of the treads.

I did notice yesterday when looking at the stairs again that on two of the steps the movement is coming from the bottom of the riser and the tread itself is bending in the middle. Do you think the repair which I’m going to do above will stop this or do I need to do something difference for these couple of steps?


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if the riser is fully secured to the tread at the bottom its very unlikly to move more tha perhaps 2mm
and if fully secured each side it cannot drop

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