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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 7:00 pm 
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big-all wrote:
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You can get it installed for free. But then you don't get the FIT payments.

You do get the kWh it generates for free. Just don't expect any free kWh during the night!


How do you get them fitted for free?


you rent your roof to a company that gets all of you generation bonus
you get some or all the generated kw for free and nothing else


What happens when you sell the house?


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cje001 wrote:

What happens when you sell the house?


you loose on the value because you have committed to 25 years :cb :cb

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big-all wrote:
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What happens when you sell the house?


you loose on the value because you have committed to 25 years :cb :cb


Oh my dear - this isnt a good idea! thanks


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If you sell the house, your solicitor would have to add something in the deeds to continue the comitment you've made with the company that supplied the solar equipment. Otherwise the new owner might tell them to remove the installation but the company would then demand that you pay their loss.

Buyers for your house may not be happy to take on an old installation; they would be in a fix if the roof needed repairs and the owner had to pay for the repairs plus the cost of removing and replacing the solar stuff and the loss to the owning company for the FIT they can't benefit from whilst you have their system down.

I think the only people who have taken the offers up are those who are too stupid to think it all through.

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Stoday wrote:
If you sell the house, your solicitor would have to add something in the deeds to continue the comitment you've made with the company that supplied the solar equipment. Otherwise the new owner might tell them to remove the installation but the company would then demand that you pay their loss.

Buyers for your house may not be happy to take on an old installation; they would be in a fix if the roof needed repairs and the owner had to pay for the repairs plus the cost of removing and replacing the solar stuff and the loss to the owning company for the FIT they can't benefit from whilst you have their system down.

I think the only people who have taken the offers up are those who are too stupid to think it all through.



I totally agree - i thought about it for all of 5seconds and decided it was a poor idea!


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the panels are fitted with brackets that sit under the slab tiles, certain roofs are not always suitable, the systems works best if you have a south facing roof though you can also get pitched system to put in the back garden,
For a typical house its roughly £8000 to install these panels with a return of abouit £1300 per year and the free electricity that goes with it. who knows how long the tariff last though the companies installing these mention a return for 25 years


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I have been looking into solar pv for my mum and have noticed the biggest scam in it all is that there seems to be no metering of the electricity generated by the panels. An estimation of the amount generated is estimated based on your consumption.

Surely this makes no sense, as being a single person in a house will be feeding far more electricity back to the system than a family of four, yet with the method of estimation, the family will be paid more :wtf:

Does anyone know if there exists a supplier that meters correctly instead?


I will have a look thought the questionnaire and let you have my thoughts


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I have been looking into solar pv for my mum and have noticed the biggest scam in it all is that there seems to be no metering of the electricity generated by the panels. An estimation of the amount generated is estimated based on your consumption.

Surely this makes no sense, as being a single person in a house will be feeding far more electricity back to the system than a family of four, yet with the method of estimation, the family will be paid more :wtf:

Does anyone know if there exists a supplier that meters correctly instead?


I will have a look thought the questionnaire and let you have my thoughts

not really if you use say 1000kw a year or 3000kw a year the panels will produce say 800 kw so the consumption will be reduced by 800kw so both get the same advantage at 200kw and 2200kw

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Yes, but they pay you what you've "fed in" to the national grid. If you are a high consumer you're %age assumption will be higher and so your payment will be £££ rather than the low consumer, though you will have pumped more into the NG.


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just got your point a family is more likely to tap into the power as they are there at times the single person isnt

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can you buy the units and install them yourself and if so what is a rough cost of them?

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You can buy and install your own stuff but you cannot get the FIT money unless the whole install is done by an 'approved' solar PV installation company. Thereby lies another 'fiddle' in the system.....

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I watched Grand Designs while waiting for the footy to start and they had an underground house with PV panels fitted and when the presenter chappy visited a year or so later and asked what was the most disappointing thing they experienced and they said it was the PV panels (admittedly they werent in the right position)

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they should by law be required to give useful figures like maximum output to give a base figure
then likely maximum averaged for the area fitted
then an expected [realistic ]average
and the possible minimum on a bad year
they then should have penalties if they overstate the amount

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I think an "investment" at the bookie's would have less risk than a pv installation.

The risks include:
The installation dosn't perform as well as the salesman said it would.
The maintenance costs are higher than the salesman said.
An unexpected design fault appears and as a result the manufacturer goes bust so your guarantee becomes worthless. (Happened to de Haveland which developed the world's first jet airliner).
The life is less than the 25 years the salesman said it is.

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