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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 8:34 am 
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Can someone recommend a good 'how to' book on shed building please?

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YouTube has some good video tutorials.


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Basically it needs to be as close in design to a small house as possible. As much insulation and passive warmth and lack of humidity as possible. Seriously, do NOT build a shed unless you do it in a spare room, hopefully out the back. And don't buy any book called 'how to build a shed'. Shed's are a myth. They are cold, damp, insecure, never big enough.

Having said all that my grandad's shed was an exception. I have never seen one approaching it since then 50 yrs ago. It was perfect but was only ply lined ship0lap with a raised floor. No rust. Dunno how he did it. It MAY have been the fact it was literally under two foot of ivy and honeysuckle. It may have been the elderflower wine he made in it and let me sample even as a kid.

I think you need to build it, roof and all, from hebel blocks and products. http://hebel.com.au/Discover-Hebel has plenty of info sheets and downloads. Then grow honeysuckle all over it and breed rabbits next to it.



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building your own shed is very satisfying but expensive
it will in general be better built but cost you around 40- 100% more than a ready made shed
so if its satisfaction is what you want go for it
if its to save money then shop around and wait for the sales

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Thanks all for the advice

I've never ever done anything remotely similar to this. I really want to build myself a nice shed, somewhere I can work and just retreat to when needed.

It won't register much in the annals of history, but at least it will give me a goal, and it will prove to me that I can in fact see something through from start to finish.

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A 'ready-made' shed will never have all the fittings and additions that a REAL shed requires (lining, insulation, guttering etc etc) unless it's a bespoke purchase (££££).

IMHO the basic rules occur at the start - firm, level and DRY foundations - and the end - decent roof covering then guttering.

Everything in between is a matter of personal preference based on the intended use.

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Think a lot. Make notes. Sheds are serious investments. Go into B&Q and look hard. They are crap and take as much money to make half functional as they cost. Most sheds you can buy are meant to store a lawnmower, a broken trampoline in pieces and maybe a BBQ.

You will be making noise, what about the neighbours?

Do you have room for a sink and a sheet metal topped bench? There will be a few times you decide to drill a bit of metal, fix the lawnmower and you do NOT want one drop of oil or one piece of metal swarf on your joinery bench.

What about a corner you can quickly rig as a spray booth for lacquer or paint?

One of the best modern innovations that beats a handkerchief over the nose hands-down is a dust extractor system.

Heating? Or are you only going to work in the eight weeks we call summer, if we are lucky?

A lot depends on your money and your available space too.

It's why I said before think of it like a house if you are serious. You don't have to wallpaper it or put carpet down but you will want a laptop desk, drawing table, windows and a coffee corner with an armchair. Maybe think seriously about, if you have the space, a small studio/office rather than a 'shed'. With a verandah and a BBQ. Your mates will always come round and help lift a heavy lump then. Especially if you add a rack for homebrew.

I'm not joking, it is a big lifestyle choice and if you get more professional later or want to earn a quid from carpentry/joinery, or even if you just want to fix up the house - you need SPACE. Big door and roof height to swing and turn an 8x4 sheet of chip or PB. Room for saw horses, racks for timber you reclaim and get your hands on. Lots of storage. Then more storage. Think single car brick garage as your minimum. Then add a loft space. Then promise the wife a month in sunny Croatia and a new wardrobe. Then budget for her to fill it after you make it.

Most of us do it bit by bit over years and include it in our house-buying plans as we progress. We don't know enough about your budget, background and so-on to really help but we have all tried to maneuver a sheet of ply through the house and out the back, we have all sawn accidentally into the dining room table or chairs at least once when doing a quick job and most of us have VERY understanding family (or a divorce or two), just because we started with an idea about getting a shed and a hobby ...! Good luck with it all.


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Thanks Jape

About right now, all I know is I am going to build a shed, and it's going to be 15' wide by at least 20' long. If I can commandeer both sides of the back garden, then that 15' might turn out to be 20'. This may take years, but it sure beats sitting in the armchair worrying myself crazy.


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are you aware to avoid planning it must be max 2.5m high less than 30 sqm and less than half the ground around the house with other building included in the 50%
https://www.planningportal.co.uk/info/2 ... tbuildings

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No I wasn't. I knew I might need planning permission but wasn't sure of the details

Thanks for the link


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I broke my back years ago, literally and snapped a bit of spine through the chord. They said I would never walk again. Since then had three kids and can run a mile and built a couple of houses. If I can do it, any can. Just start somewhere, anywhere then. Get a workmate and a saw and a plane and cut some wood while you draw up plans and research. Good luck and let us know how you go.


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Will do, thanks Jape

Hope you're back continues strong



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I may be wrong, but doesn't your Hayward "Complete Book of Woodworking" include drawings and notes on the construction of a garden shed, cold frame, etc? There's also a basic home worker's bench in there, too (OK, not a Paul Sellars one, but a decent solid bench)

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Job and Knock wrote:
I may be wrong, but doesn't your Hayward "Complete Book of Woodworking" include drawings and notes on the construction of a garden shed, cold frame, etc? There's also a basic home worker's bench in there, too (OK, not a Paul Sellars one, but a decent solid bench)

It does indeed. I couldn't help but let out a little 'Whoop!' when I saw that at the end of the book :huray:


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I bought a 8x12 shed online about 5 years ago and paid £600 for it. Then I spent another £600 on materials (1/2" ply and timber etc) to beef it up and put in shelves. It's now perfect for what I need, and I spend hours in there getting away from Ms Gadget.... :-)

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