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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 3:29 pm 
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Hi

We need to get our garden grassed shortly but theres loads of weeds, old grass, dandelions etc thats all come back since it was dug a yr ago.
My question is would we need to re dig it and then rotavate or would rotavating do this job and then grass over it weed free.

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Rotavate now, and have 100 xs more weeds in July.

Dig em out is the only way if you want a lawn this year.


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If you can weed it properly then that's the best way to prepare the soil. However, the less laborious method is to kill the weeds with a systemic weedkiller, leave it for a few days (it can take over a week) until the weeds are all brown (it can take over a week) and then to rake off all the dead stuff. Any roots you leave behind will be dead and you can pick them up if you see them but it doesn't matter if you don't get them out.

If you are seeding then you'll want to really kill everything. If you intend to turf then you only need to severely weaken the more stubborn weeds so that once they are under the turf they won't have the ability to regenerate and grow up through your turf.

You shouldn't need to rotovate again. Rotovating will only make more work for you in compacting it again. Just use a rake to break up the surface and give yourself a decent tilth to work with.

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Hi

It will be done with rolls off turf approxamatly 116 rolls, we had someone round to price for it doing and was told it neaded rotavating then levelling then turfing over as the weeds would be all chopped up and wouldnt come back through.

I wasnt so sure thus the reason for asking as want a nice lawn for kids to play on.

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How much are you paying for the 116 rolls of turf? I'm gonna be needing some soon I think.


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They was charging us £2 a roll


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Hi guys

Had a word with the guy that did the quote and he said rotavating it with the weeds and dead grass etc will shread them all and the carnt come back once the rolls off turf are layed over them.

can someone confirm this to be ok or would we have to go another route before laying the rolls.

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I imagine the weeds will be quite advanced by now. If you rotovate then you'll find that the weeds will settle in pockets. Once you lay the turf these pockets of dead matter will rot down and the turf will sink. Good luck with mowing that next year. Some of the more vigorous weeds with the tap roots will regenerate and grow through the turf.

I refer you back to my previous post. Kill the weeds and lift the plant material before preparing the soil.

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And I agree 100%.


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Hi Phil

The systemic weed killer can this be bought at garden centres, also our garden needs a bit off levelelling this the reason also wy we was going to rotavate to get a levelish area

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No problem. Apply the systematic weedkiller and rotovate a week or 2 later once the weedkiller had done its job. You can buy it at most garden centres and the likes of B&Q etc.

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Yes, you can buy systemic weedkillers from garden centres, hardware stores, supermarkets and DIY stores.

Your first priority is to remove the weeds. Levelling the clean soil is a secondary issue. Using a rotovator to both clear the weeds and to level the soil is not advisable for the reasons stated previously.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 4:50 pm 
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Geewiz has got it spot on ~ rotovating it will only cause more weeds and won't help you to level the ground. If I was you, I'd follow his advice. :-)


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