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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:02 pm 
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Gents, 87yr old mum just been told by emergency plumber her pump (as attached) has gone and pump valves are leaking. I'm assuming that is something like these: https://www.screwfix.com/p/pegler-pump- ... pack/20850

She has been without heat or hot water for 24hrs, and now the plumber has diagnosed, i'm wondering if this is something I can change for her tomorrow via Screwfix? My main concern is the heat.

Is it just a case of buying this https://www.screwfix.com/p/pegler-pump- ... pack/20850 and a replacement pump from the selection here: https://www.screwfix.com/c/heating-plum ... /cat831036

Last and most importantly, is it a gas safe job, or can I DIY it?

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I am no expert, wish I could help. But why don't you buy the same pump, Ideal MP63 easy replacement no pipe changes straight swap.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/IDEAL-173195 ... :rk:1:pf:0

Again I am no expert and haven't changed CH pump before. I think you have a valve in the pic to turn off so will be simple but pls check and don't take my word for it. You can also call Ideal for technical help.

Doubt if it is gas safe job, you are not touching the boiler.


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Thanks Yartin, been doing some looking up on YT and the valves also need changing, which means draining down the whole system I believe, as for changing brand of pump, it was just so I could pick one up from Screwfix or Wickes tomorrow as she's got no heating.


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Draining not too difficult assuming you have fill and expansion tank in the loft, you need to stop water filling the tank then drain lowest radiator.
Again I am not sure if you need to drain whole system? If it sufficient to empty the tank, close valves on all rads?
I see what you mean to buy a pump urgently and do pipe modification.

Let's hope expert reply arrives soon here.


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Where are the valves leaking from? If its the spindle, then yes change the valves.

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Somewhere on the pump will be an arrow (indicating direction of flow / rotation) draw an arrow going the same direction on the wall. Make sure the new pump goes in with its arrow pointing in the same direction as the arrow on the wall.

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Thanks S-E, the emergency plumber said the valves and pump need replacing. He said he can hear one is clicking, but I can't remember if that was the valve or pump. He listed both as needing changing though.


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Do they need changing?

To drain down the system and refill will take time. Time = more money, do the valves leak, can they be turned off? if the answers are no and yes (in that order) I would just change the pump (and washers on the pump)

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If you are draining down then swapping the valves out and fitting the new pump will be straight forward. The only issue is the gap between the two pipes needing adjustment but usually there is a bit of give to get you out of bother or a pipe cutter can be used to increase the gap to make the new valves and pump fit if necessary. Pay attention to any flow direction arrows you see on the fittings. Good luck sorting. :thumbright:

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Thanks, do I just fire up the system afterwards or do I need inhibitor and to pressurise it?


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You need inhibitor if you are draining the system. No need to pressurise if you have fill and expansion tank in loft.


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