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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:03 am 
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Hi
I wanted to change my old bathroom ceiling spot light with a new one. Photos of the old and new are attached.
So I was taking the old one out and saw only have to wires coming from the ceiling to the old spotlight, RED and Black. There is no Earth cable. Is there any harm to connect the new one without Earth? Bearing in mind I am living in the house, am the owner, no tenant and do not need NICEIC certificate.
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The mains fuse board was changed 15 years ago to RCDs ....new system.
The house was extended 10 years ago, extension has separate fuse RCD board. At that time Earth was added to the house and all pipes etc are earthed.

The other question is: Can I just fit the new spotlight without Earth? The old one didn't have one.
Or Is there an easy way round it?


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After doing some homework, yes I need earth with the new lights I bought as they are metal except if they were double insulated fitting.
Can someone tell me from the photo if my original old one is double insulated lights? There was no writing inside when I took it off.


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If it has metal on the outside no but also have you a 15 year old consumer box with MCB's as you say RCD's and most have only 2 RCD's and many MCB's ?
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aeromech3 wrote:
If it has metal on the outside no but also have you a 15 year old consumer box with MCB's as you say RCD's and most have only 2 RCD's and many MCB's ?
Experts will give more direction soon.


"If it has metal on the outside no".
I dont understand, what do you mean?


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Moved to lighting.


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Better pic of the connections at the new fitting ?

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Are the gold bits made of metal? if they are then they must have a double insulation layer from any live fitting which can be very difficult, eg: if the outside is metal and the glass light bulb/globe is next to the metal.


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