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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 5:57 pm 
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I am about to update my kitchen, mainly units, tops and appliances. I have 3 wall sockets fitted in a strange way by the previous owner. Please see photo. I am not changing the tiles as they are in good shape. How shall I tackle these sockets? I took screws of and socket is stuck in the wall by the grout. I don't want to use surface mounted sockets, don't look nice. Any ideas appreciated.

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scrape the grout off and unscrew the socket. a better pic will help.

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wine~o wrote:
scrape the grout off and unscrew the socket. a better pic will help.


Yes I can do that but don't want new sockets to go in the same way, just want it normal flash on the wall. Another photo attached.


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Ahh got you. Normally the tiles extend under the faceplate of the socket fitting. That's a right bodge. If you don't have any spare tiles then you are on a hiding to nothing.

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wine~o wrote:
Ahh got you. Normally the tiles extend under the faceplate of the socket fitting. That's a right bodge. If you don't have any spare tiles then you are on a hiding to nothing.


I know it is a bodged job and hence post title. There must be a solution. I can still find same tiles but need an easier solution, may be if I put plastic face plate or if I can find slightly longer and wider sockets so goes flush or existing grout.... it's a decorating task....


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yartin wrote:
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Ahh got you. Normally the tiles extend under the faceplate of the socket fitting. That's a right bodge. If you don't have any spare tiles then you are on a hiding to nothing.


I know it is a bodged job and hence post title. There must be a solution. I can still find same tiles but need an easier solution, may be if I put plastic face plate or if I can find slightly longer and wider sockets so goes flush or existing grout.... it's a decorating task....
You won't any standard double that would cover that, proper bodge job. What about these trim plates

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/23150093 ... 2990410118

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Here's an idea, but it will take a little care by somebody with a bit of DIY knowledge/skill and some decent tools.

Remove the existing faceplate/socket, carefully gouge round the grout with (a) a multitool (b) a stanley knife. Electric off, disconnect that socket.

Carefully, using a multitool, cut round the outside of the backbox & undo the screws holding it in (if there are any) so that it can be removed, leaving behind just the cables.

Enlarge the recess vertically (because it is longer than what's there) either up or down and fit a DUAL BACKBOX (eg search for Screwfix 48234, Appleby SB676) vertically in the hole, replacing/refitting the screws through the back.

You will then be able to install TWO, 1Gang, single sockets, one above the other, in the correct orientation. Maintaing the ring main when connecting them.

Whether you will be able to plug anything into them remains to be tried (the top plug cable may foul the bottom plug) or you could, instead of two single sockets, fit just one & a blanking plate. Haven't tried this but the principle is sound.

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Wait are these on sideways? Or is it just the pic that is skewed?

Should be able to replace with a standard faceplate and use a fingerplate behind to hide the bodge.


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Ktuludays wrote:
yartin wrote:
wine~o wrote:
Ahh got you. Normally the tiles extend under the faceplate of the socket fitting. That's a right bodge. If you don't have any spare tiles then you are on a hiding to nothing.


I know it is a bodged job and hence post title. There must be a solution. I can still find same tiles but need an easier solution, may be if I put plastic face plate or if I can find slightly longer and wider sockets so goes flush or existing grout.... it's a decorating task....
You won't any standard double that would cover that, proper bodge job. What about these trim plates

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/23150093 ... 2990410118

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There is a slight problem with these plates. As in the photo I have decorative tiles with designs and are proud, not flat with the wall, and this the plate will not sit flat on the wall unless I start cutting where required, I am not sure how good will that look.


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I am thinking of two ways, what do you guys think?

1. Reconstruct the metal box installation. At present it is deeper inside the wall so take it off bring where it is flash with the tiles then I will need to do some filling using grout around the metal box to make it all even with the tiles then fit the socket and happy days.

However, I haven't taken the sockets of yet so not sure if it has metal box but shouldn't make much difference.

2. Use dry lining box if I can? They have surround trims and make the hole big enough to fit the box then the socket.


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Apologies for previous, didn't realise image wasn't correctly oriented.

1. If a metal backbox, that doesn't need to be forward, if it is inset you just use longer screws (3.5mm, readily available) having rectified the surround.

2. Unless it is a hollow stud wall, I don't think a dry ling box will be of any use.

But as you say, you haven't taken it off yet.


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Electric off
Remove socket
Use one of these sheilds and re-grout to existing level http://www.discount-electrical.co.uk/pr ... 596f5dd077
Remove shield once grout has dried properly
Fit back new socket with longer screws if necessary
Electric on

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arco_iris wrote:
Apologies for previous, didn't realise image wasn't correctly oriented.

1. If a metal backbox, that doesn't need to be forward, if it is inset you just use longer screws (3.5mm, readily available) having rectified the surround.

2. Unless it is a hollow stud wall, I don't think a dry ling box will be of any use.

But as you say, you haven't taken it off yet.


That's fine, I was checking the photos, you confused me a bit but it's OK.
I am going to try @darrenba's method.
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