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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:05 pm 
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its a general powertool ratings from your own experience comparing all levels from diy to high end

rating 1 as poor to 10 is the best where do you rate tools

1and 2 most off the ones you never heard off
3 own makes with minimum parts
4 jcb black and decker lidl and the like
5 bosch green ryobi
6 aeg
7 dewalt hitachi makita
8 bosch blue
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10 festool allegedly

you thoughts on other makes and your positions

you can put a make in 2 different positions but you need to add why you think some off there tools are worse than other

if we get enough poster we will go for a forum average to leave in the sticky for easy

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Can anyone really answer this with any degree of accuracy?

I been at it for over 40 years now and haven't used half the makes you've listed and none of the others in sufficient number or within a reasonable time-scale to be able to compare.

I look after my tools, (mainly by not lending them out to every tom d*ck and harry that wants them :lol: ) but it means that I don't need to replace them very often.

One SDS drill, two planers, (only cos I had to change to 110v the original 240v from 1971 is still working ), two routers, three mitre saws, a fair number of circ saws and cordless drills have made their way in and out of my van.

Makita are not the same quality they were in the 70s and 80s, I've never rated Bosch or De-Walt very highly (although Elu stuff was always good), Hitachi are usually good value, Festool are good but overpriced, my personal preference is Metabo & Hilti.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:23 am 
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its not an exact science
take the ones you have and decide where you think they should sit in the grand sceam off things
add any makes you like
the idea is iff we get enough people rating tools [over 20 perhaps] we can have a reasonable sample but i wont include any specific manufacturer unless at least 5 have rated as that would be unfair
i would love if 50 plus reviewers rate tools this will stop a small sample allowing a few to bias the results

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i bet hilti/ panasonic and metabo would rank in the 9/10 range

but as you say diy sheds in the title you will not beable to get anything past 6 as they sheds are all diy rated

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I'll give it a go.

Aldi "Craft" 5 (Small Router)
Argos "Challenge Extreme" 6 (Sliding Mitre Saw, Tile saw, Circular Saw)
Black & Decker 6 (Jigsaw)
Bosch Green 7 (Hammer Drill & PMF180E)
Ryobi 7 (One+ Kit & Belt Sander)
Freud 7(Big router)
DeWalt 8 (SDS Drill)
Bosch Blue 8 (10.8 driver, drill, impact, GOP Random orbit sander)
Triton 8 (Big router in the table)

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:06 pm 
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cheers jg exactly what we need :thumbright:

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ive used most of my gear for a long while now. its been fine and i tend to not bother buying cheapo makes but ive used stuff in the past briefly that is cheapo rubbish.

1, challenge (gotta be the worst stuff going i think. id rate it as a 0 if there was an option.

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4,

5, b&q own brand performance power pro. 18v cordless drill. and cordless circ saw. still both work but i think theres only 1 battery left that doesnt hold a charge. guess i should skip them.

6, wickes own brand, 9 inch grinder.

7, dewalt. circ saw, few cordless drills. chop saw. saw stand. impact driver

8, makita, jigsaw , router, sds drill, nail gun,
bosch, sds max drill, planer,
elu, sds drill, cordless, planer, (obv its an old make but people may chose to buy 2nd hand stuff?)
hitachi, circ saw
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dont own stuff id class as propper mint. like what id imagine festool stuff to be like. but pretty happy with my makita gear. and dont abuse my tools. so they seem to last well.



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:09 pm 
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rate your tools even if they haven't been mentioned much as i wont give any tool a mark with less than 5 scores even if a perfect 10 as the sample will be to small allowing easy manipulation
i am lumping the results together with the same poll on diy not

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1) Red Devil 240v Drill. Lasted 3 days before chuck bent.

2) Clarke contractor cement mixer

3)Rapesco cordless Brad nailer, Metabo Powergrip screwdriver,

4) Bosch 240v Drill (green), Bosch DMF 10 Zoom Detector, Draper Pillar Drill

5)Black and Decker orbital sander, Bosch delta sander (Green) Bosch wallpaper steamer (Green)

6) Draper WDV 1400 Vacuum cleaner with tool socket.Dremmel 398 professional, Dewalt Alligator saw,

7) Bosch GSB 12V VSP-2 Drill, Ryobi belt sander,Dewalt 18v vacuum cleaner, Bosch GSR 10.8V-LI Screwdriver, Bosch 12 ves-2 Drill,
Bosch GSR 12v Drill, Dewalt DW 920 Screwdriver

8) Bosch DLE 50 pro Laser Measure, Dewalt DW309L 110v Saw, Bosch GKS24v Circular Saw, Bosch GST 24v Jigsaw, Bosch Rotary Laser Level and Tripod,Bosch GBH 2-20 Drill

9)Bosch GBH 24 VRF Drill, Dewalt DW712 Mitre Saw and stand,Paslode IM 350 Nailer,

10) ? Stanley Bridges 240v Drill, First drill owned, lasted 15 years of abuse.

Most of the above only used for DIY

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Just to throw a small spanner in the works, but from my limited experience i've found that tools vary in each range, in terms of function.

Leaving longevity and durability aside for the moment, I've got a Bosch Green planer (PH 20-82), Bosch Green jigsaw (PST 900) and Bosch Green 18v Drill.

I love the plane and the jigsaw, for my moderate DIY use i can't see any reason for moving up to the blue range, however by comparison the 18v drill feels cheap and poorly assembled and i am considering getting either a blue bosch replacement or getting a Ryobi as i have some One+ Li-on system tools already.

On a similar note i loaned my Ryobi 18v impact driver to a kitchen fitter in my house a few months back because he was near the end of the day and the battery had died in his and he said that it felt every bit as capable as his Bosch that cost 3 x as much.


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give them all a rating please orm even if its based on your conversation with the fitter because most "views " will tend to be second hand shared information as not many people have several different makes and models to compare :lol: :lol:

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1) Unbranded Tesco, Aldi, etc own brand rubbish.
2) Own brands from DIY stores such as Challenge, Macallister, Wickes etc.
3) Black and Decker, Einhell.
4) JCB.
5) Metabo.
6) Bosch Green, Ryobi (With the odd exception)
7) Dewalt, Makita, Hitachi.
8) Certain tools from numbers 6&7 that stand out from the rest of the range, such as the Ryobi One+ 18v impact driver.
9) Bosch Blue
10) Festool (not experienced their tools myself, but i guess so many people can't be wrong!)



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orm29 wrote:
5) Metabo.

I'm a bit surprised to see this from you as you just bought the 254i? is it disappointing or are you basing this rating on other tools?


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Yeah, i've returned it without even using it. It just didn't feel like a £500+ tool in terms of quality, i didn't even attempt to use it, my first impression was that it has a bit of a cheap feel about it so trusted my gut feeling from first impressions.

I have now thrown caution (and budget) to the wind and the Bosch 12" Glide is arriving Monday.


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I played with the Bosch 12" Glide yesterday whilst in D&M Tools showroom and I must admit it did feel pretty good with a nice smooth movement.

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