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Yesterday - I hired an electrician to install this:

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/household-appliances/cooking/hoods/neff-d61lac1n0b-visor-cooker-hood-stainless-steel-10164704-pdt.html

I always get the opinion of fellow forum members, before any job is accepted (by me) & signed off (due to terrible terrible experiences in the past).

Electrician's back on Monday to fit covering panel on top of the hood, covering the pipe & socket from view.

So Please - Rate this job:

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Note: I'll be fitting the gravity flap grille outside today. Here is the thread about it:

http://www.ultimatehandyman.co.uk/forum1/masonary-bodge-job-t93604.html

I am not worried about that aspect, so please ignore that part. The only part I did was enlarge the hole 100mm to 150mm.

All the other work = electricians.

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Health & safety of my family is paramount.

Second is protecting the long term reliance/viability of the cooker hood - so I get a fair number of years from it.



So - If this was the install done at your house:

A) Is the job good? How would you rate it?

B) What changes or improvements would you recommend/require/demand, before accepting the job as done (competently)?



My family's thanks, to any willing to explore & discuss this install, to get it right.

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No need to link to this topic from your previous one.
I've deleted the link post.


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Does it really matter what any of us think?

If everyone said is great and you did not like it what would you do?

If different people said different things, what would you do?

At the end of the day none of us have to use it or look at it, so it is really up to you.

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I am checking his work.

I'm asking others, that have the qualifications and experience I don't have - to point out any issues/concerns worth bringing up on Monday.

I usually adivse that whenever a famly member has been told they need major surgery, that they get a second or third opinion first. So goes the same before sending of a CV for a job application - I usually get a few eyes on it first. I hope you can understand the logic behind it.

I look forward to your constructive contribution.


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It's a work in progress, I can't see anything obviously flakey from your pics, (but I'm a wood butcher).

Why not wait until it's finished and see what you think?

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Have you got a link to the extraction kit ? Can't seem to find it on the Currys site.

Any reason why you/your Electrician has gone from a 100mm spigot to 150mm hence requiring the tape ?

Personally I'd have sunk the socket box so that the socket was flush rather than surface mounting... but that is prolly just me.

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So if the cover is over the socket, where is the accessible means of isolation?


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Dave54 wrote:
So if the cover is over the socket, where is the accessible means of isolation?


I'm very grateful for your input.

This is the kind of thing, that as a novice, I am ignorant about.

The panel is going to be covering the top - and will have to be removed before the plug can be accessed in the future.

I did ask him if some sort of isolation switch (within easy reach) was required as with the electric oven underneath.

His response was that the plug & switch acts as the isolation.

Could somebody please help me understand what the right way on this is. Like I said - after Monday - is the final visit - so I'd rather get it all sorted in one go.


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charliebrown wrote:
Dave54 wrote:
So if the cover is over the socket, where is the accessible means of isolation?


I'm very grateful for your input.

This is the kind of thing, that as a novice, I am ignorant about.

The panel is going to be covering the top - and will have to be removed before the plug can be accessed in the future.

I did ask him if some sort of isolation switch (within easy reach) was required as with the electric oven underneath.

His response was that the plug & switch acts as the isolation.

Could somebody please help me understand what the right way on this is. Like I said - after Monday - is the final visit - so I'd rather get it all sorted in one go.


That's why I asked about the extraction kit. the few I've fitted have covers at about 200/220mm wide/deep which will leave the socket and plug accessible... from a stepladder...

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Nothing wrong with the plug and socket, it is as said, a means of isolation, where else could he put it, if its under the hood it will be above the hot plates / gas burners of the cooker, which would be worse.
If anyone works on the hood, the first place to look is near the extraction point (since that is where the fan will be be) Bingo, there is a socket and plug ready to be isolated. The fact that a step ladder is required is irrelevant since you can't reach the guts of the hood either.

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I spent significant time speaking to manrose & others about sourcing an extraction kit.

I couldn't get a simple answer from Neff!

Instead - I downloaded the extractor fan installation instructions (pre purchase) - dug around - and ended up contacting ikea. they sell a huge number of kitchen extractors internationally.

I found that they sold the parts - and they were very high quality + very cheap.

They sell 150mm semi rigid aluminium hose - very long (£7/8).

Then I purchased a manrose reducer/enlarger - 120mm to 150mm - ££1.29 from screwfix - to connect to the extractor's outlet.

Found the aluminium tape in a local iron merchants - aluminium & heat resistant - designed for heating ventilation systems & exhausts.

The manual is very clear - neff recommends that the extracor will be quietest and most effective with a 150mm extraction hose - even though the outlet is only for a 120mm fitting.

Putting the parts together was much cheaper - and much higher quality than buying a pre packed kit - the manrose ones inparticular - are relatively expensive.

The electrician put it all together.


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Why did you use an electrician? It looks like the hood came with a plug and the socket was already there.

So other than pushing a plug into a socket what other electrical work did he do?


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charliebrown wrote:
...............Health & safety of my family is paramount.


In that case, have you got smoke alarms, and have you got a couple of fire extinguishers?

(Sadly I am not joking)

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OnlyMe wrote:
Why did you use an electrician? It looks like the hood came with a plug and the socket was already there.

So other than pushing a plug into a socket what other electrical work did he do?


The previous extractor fan - was making screeching noises - bearings were gone - 20 years use.

Upon removal - there was no seal (tape or clip - nothing). The wires were signed (I kid you not).

We have a number of tradespeople visit - they told us the fan - the motor were covered in oil - due to the lack of seal. The wires even at their bear ends were covered in oil. And we were lucky that there hadn't been a fire due to the quality of work administered previously.

So - ther electrican - replaced the socket case and front - put in that module you see sticking out the side.

He a ffixed the unit to the wall - attached the reducer + pipe. Sealed it up with the tape.

He also took a look over our main fuse box - and found the entire kitchen (excluding oven) was off a single radial - rather than ring - and is coming back on monday to swap out the 30amp fuse that the radial is connected to for a 20 amp one.

Basically, my family have been screwed around by the previous fuilly qualified tradesmen we've paid to do work in the house - and this guy has been called in to see what issues/fixes need to be implemented regarding the fusebox + he was asked to install the new extractor fan so that it is safe this time.


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The job is absolutely fine, neat and tidy.


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