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Hello,

Has anyone fitted a log burner in a conservatory? If so what are the considerations - eg regs, cost, how the flue works? We are just obtaining quotes for our new conservatory and would love to have a log burner in there, but it would depend on whether or not it would be practical to do.

We are considering siting it at the end - this would be a full brick wall that joins onto the existing wall of the bungalow. We are having a glass roof and so thought the flue could possibly run out of the wall and then angle across to the solid bungalow wall and then go up from there.

Would the expense, regs etc make this a pretty unrealistic wish?

Any help gratefully received!!

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Get all the regs sorted, I take it you will be going the Hetas route, they will help and advise you.
And yes, it will make a big difference as a focal point, plus loads of heat.


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lincolnshireyokel wrote:
The other really useful tool when you have a wood burner is a hydraulic log splitter. A fabulous invention, im using a Machine Mart Log Buster 7.

It vicious, and you certainly dont want to be standing near the business end too close. It'll split oak and beach no problem, and the biggest pitb logs to split up, the knotty ends and junctions of branches, split a lot better than hacking away with an axe. You can even sit down and do it, the ultimate in lazy.


that log splitter is a pretty cool tool :-)

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A wife is an even more useful tool - should see mine swing a chainsaw.......

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Heating a conservatory? Aren't they very poorly insulated buildings?

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Yes, an air heater is best like a fan heater. Any heat generated will not be retained for long and it would be difficult to get instant warmth which is what you want for the casual use of a conservatory. I had a fanciful mental image of a blob of melted plastic laying around the woodburner when I read this thread :lol:

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Yes, an air heater is best like a fan heater. Any heat generated will not be retained for long and it would be difficult to get instant warmth which is what you want for the casual use of a conservatory. I had a fanciful mental image of a blob of melted plastic laying around the woodburner when I read this thread :lol:

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Unless it's a hardwood frame...in which case the wood will end up on the fire..


Seriously Maca..the heat loss from a conny is going to be so great that you'll end up spending a fortune on installation and logs and will still never feel the benefit.

Stoday would have have told you to get a heat exchanger or similar...I think.. :roll:

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If you're not using an existing chimney/liner then you'd go for rigid twin insulated system (most seem to come from Canada in the UK). Can be quite a straightforward job. Usually works as cheap to get a HETAS person as to do it yourself then have to pay building inspector to pass it.

But like the rest have said, conservatory won't hold gthe heat so a bit of a waste? Why not put it inside the bungalow - probably heat thte whole house in all but the coldest weather.


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Hello to all,

Many thanks for all your recommendations. I know conservatories are cold in winter and hot in the summer but we have had one before and I absolutely loved it - my favourite room in the house. The mistake we made with that one was to have the central heating extended into it - two radiators did not heat it sufficiently in the depths of winter to make it comfortable and I felt that it was such a waste as we didn't use it in the week before work and so it was being heated for no reason. We generally used it in the winter for a few hours in the early evening and so the rest of the heat after that was also being wasted.

I thought this time a solution would be to have electric underfloor heating running independently from the central heating so we could set it just for the times we use it most, and to back that up with a lovely log burner (which we have also had before but in our lounge in the old house and also loved) for the wow factor, ambience, mess :lol: and extra warmth for those chilly evenings when we want to spend longer in there.

Cotswold Builders,

Have had a look on the Hetas site and was surprised to see quite a few in our local area - one apparently an old nearly neighbour of ours! Will have to make some phone calls if we do decide to continue with this idea.

Root and Kellys eye,

Hee hee - my hubby thinks I am a liability swinging even a hedge trimmer as I have habit of trimming the elec cable!! However ashtray and frying pan swinging at hubby I am an expert at! :lol:

Mooncat, DeWaltDisney and Wine-o,

I do appreciate the appalling heat retention properties of conservatories which is why I am trying to think of alternative heating arrangements. Not too sure about fan heaters as they are ugly and noisy. I would also prefer not to be covered in white melting goo if a log too many was tossed on a burner! (Going the plastic root Wine-o so cannot use the frame for firewood!). I don't know what a heat exchanger is but sounds very green.

Pickplumb,

Have considered putting a log burner in the front room -it is quite small though - around 12' by 12' and we have to keep the door shut all the time as we have cockatiels who are out of their cage a lot. As we have experience of log burners before I know we will be sitting in tropical temperatures with this arrangement and not be able to do much about it! (Please don't anyone suggest using the cockatiels as firewood!!) :-)

Many thanks for all of your suggestions and advice.

Still at the thinking and considering stage at the moment so any further advice regarding all this will be very much appreciated.

Kind Regards,

Karen.


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Hi Karen some reading for you

http://www.what price.co.uk/conservatory/heating.html

oh ..link don't work..get rid of the space between What and Price...

installation costs are quite high, though running costs comparatively low. work as a heater in winter, and an aircon unit in summer..

http://www.croftonconservatorycentre.co ... s/heat.php

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DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES FIT UNDERFLOOR IN A CONSERVATORY yes i know it shouting :lol: :lol:

you will have say 3 to 6 kw off heat loss in a conservatory under floor heating will give you maybe 1kw

wood burners need around 18" clearance around them from flammable surfaces so that's 1 square metres off you conservatory unusable plus the big pile off wood
a wood burner will need 10 to 15 mins attention every hour to give out around 60% efficiency if you reduce the time to 5-7 mins an hour you will be around 35-40%
basically a conservatory is a summer tool seal it up for the winter or wear out door clothing

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