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iceni Member

Joined: 01 Aug 2007 Posts: 57
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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SDS just means "tool less change system" i.e. keyless chuck
The main difference is between a true hammer drill or a rotary percussion drill.
If you have used both you will know the difference. |
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Jaeger_S2k Senior Member

Joined: 19 Nov 2006 Posts: 2786 Location: North West, England, United Kingdom
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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| iceni wrote: |
SDS just means "tool less change system" i.e. keyless chuck
The main difference is between a true hammer drill or a rotary percussion drill.
If you have used both you will know the difference. |
No! If it did it would be called TCS and it isn't???
Special Direct System
The name SDS comes from the German "Steck – Dreh – Sitz" (Insert – Twist – Stay). German-speaking countries may use "Spannen durch System" (Clamping System), though Bosch (who developed the system in 1975 for hammer drills) uses "Special Direct System" for international purposes. _________________ Jaeger.
"Does my bum look BIG in this?" Wit's a Ba' Hair in Metric?
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iceni Member

Joined: 01 Aug 2007 Posts: 57
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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| This was its original meaning, but its now generally used across Bosch to indicate a 'tool less change system' |
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furkin Junior Member

Joined: 19 Feb 2008 Posts: 33 Location: South West
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 8:49 am Post subject: |
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Horses for courses,,,,,,
If you just need to drill concrete / brick walls etc for rawlplugs'n'screws etc a decent Hammer drill is more than sufficient (I am still using my original Quattro that I bought when they forst came out - one of the better tools that I'v bought)
If you need to drill holes in granite &/or for pipes, cables etc, then an SDS is the chap.
I only have a cheap S.F item, but it's done me proud over the past few years.
cheers |
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Rog (RJ) Junior Member
Joined: 19 May 2008 Posts: 14 Location: Notts, UK
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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I always thought it was "Secure Drilling System", you learn something new everyday! _________________ If you can't say anything nice about someone, say nothing
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EJJ150847 Senior Member

Joined: 04 Jan 2008 Posts: 1379 Location: Fareham, Hampshire
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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I would go for a standard drill for lighter tasks and basic drilling with a separate SDS for heavier tasks. I have a Bosch 650w, Nutool heavy SDS and a SF special offer De Walt 2Kg SDS that came with a free 12v DW Cordless for £89.
I also have a Ryobi 14.4v hammer & BNPOO performance power 14.4v hammer.
I just love lots of tools, now I need a bigger shed.
John _________________ Mebyon Kernow |
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Hoovie Devon DIYer

Joined: 27 Jul 2007 Posts: 7776 Location: East Devon
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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well you got the tools to build one
I stand by my initial comment - if you want to buy just one drill, SDS is NOT the way to go.
The amount of time you REALLY need the features of an SDS drill compared to a normal hammer combi-drill is very small.
Cordless for general work (super convienient), Mains Hammer for when you need sustained power drilling wood and light masonry (unless you have an SDS) and SDS for serious masonry/demo work. _________________ If you have a son, DO NOT name him after a verb ....
"Neil, Standup. Neil, Standup"
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Gadget Jack Of All Trades

Joined: 18 Dec 2005 Posts: 3456 Location: Whitley Bay
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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I've heard it called Slotted Drive Shaft _________________ By eck! |
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ultimatehandyman Site Admin

Joined: 16 Jul 2005 Posts: 9286 Location: Darwen, Lancashire
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Hoovie Devon DIYer

Joined: 27 Jul 2007 Posts: 7776 Location: East Devon
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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Super Dooper Screwer
or was that something else?  _________________ If you have a son, DO NOT name him after a verb ....
"Neil, Standup. Neil, Standup"
"Which is it, man?" |
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thescruff Senior Member

Joined: 10 Mar 2008 Posts: 4662 Location: Bath
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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I always call them SDS drills  _________________ Scruff |
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Gadget Jack Of All Trades

Joined: 18 Dec 2005 Posts: 3456 Location: Whitley Bay
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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I also found this explanation!..Schnell Drilling System.....  _________________ By eck! |
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fin Senior Member
Joined: 16 Apr 2008 Posts: 264
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Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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| deffo special direct system. says so in my elu sds instructions. also im sure it does in my bosch sds max breaker drill instructions |
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Neds Junior Member
Joined: 26 May 2008 Posts: 9
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Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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| SDS and hammer drill there is no comparison! Great for hard screwdriving applications too! I <3 my Makita HR2450! |
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fin Senior Member
Joined: 16 Apr 2008 Posts: 264
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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| my elu sds drill is ohhh about 12 years old now i think. its been used for many many damp proof courses and hundreds of other jobs. still going strong though could do with a service i think. sometimes feels as if it misses a beat. only like £100 for the equivalent dewalt model now though |
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