Hello.

I have a question please on how to get rid of stubborn limescale in the rim of my loo.

I have only just discovered that there are jet holes in the rim of toilets.

I am a total DIY novice

I have been in this flat ten years, and although I clean the loo, the rim has never been cleaned.

When I flush, water only comes from the back of the bowl, and a little bit from the sides, near the back.

I have had suggestions of placing a small mirror in the bowl so I can see the holes, but the rim is so deep the holes are not visible.

I have had suggestions of cleaning out the holes with a wire coat hanger cut cannot see the holes.
I could 'feel' for the holes, but I may scratch the bowl.

I tried squirting limescale remover up, but it mustnt have reached the holes as they are about two inches above the edge of the rim. I put a piece of wire from a coat hanger up there to see how far they were.

It has been suggested that I take the cystern off, but as I am novice, I am scared to do this.

Would putting vinegar in the cystern corrode the plastic bits inside. I do not intend to empty the cystern as I dont know how.

Can anyone offer me any other suggestions please.

What problems will scratching the bowl cause please?

Please feel free to move this thread if it is in the wrong forum.

Thank you.

Cleaning the holes with a coat hanger would be an idea, but don't scratch the bowl if you can avoid it.

I think you can get stuff you put in the cistern, but not tried it.

Vinegar etc, would have to soak for a few days so not really an option.

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Have you tried this stuff?

http://www.ciao.co.uk/Reviews/Harpic_10 ... r__7220785

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I Know it says I'm On-line, but I might have just left myself logged in, whilst I'm out....

Thank you.

I heard a few times that you should not scratch the bowl, can you tell me, pease, what problems I will have if I do scratch the bowl, as I cannot see the holes, with the rim being too deep.

Many thanks

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I haven't used this product, but am scared to put another product under the rim.
The reason is, because there may still be residues of tesco limescale product there that I have not been able to rinse out, and I wonder if I may cause a bad chemical reaction, if I squirt another product up there?

Many thanks
L

Flush a few times first...then try it...also get a good brush.

From the sound of it may need more than one treatment...

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The first thing to do is poke all the holes out with the aid of a mirror.

You are unlikely to damage the glaze, but you can mark it, although it will be out of sight.

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Have you tried a new product out by domestos?, its called Domestos Zero, apparently its the new best thing for cleaning limescale.
I have never used it, but the client I was working for the other week, went out and bought as she had heard good things about it, she was so excited that it got rid of the old limescale that she could not budge with other products.
She did her toilet, and her taps, she was so excited lol, that she called me to have a look, and I must say, it definately did the job.

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Hello again

Thescruff

I tried the mirror but the rim is so deep all I saw was darkness.

bobbie dazzler

I may try that stuff on my taps but darent try it on the loo as there may be remnants of tesco limescale remover up in the rim, which the flush water hasnt reached, and I fear a chemical reaction between the two products.
I googled domestos zero, and the shape of the bottle is the same as the bottle of tesco lime remover, so I dont think it will reach right up where the holes are.


Ive been advised that as my loo is over thirty years old, it has an 'open rim' and wont have holes. I was also advised that as it is so old it will be a 12 litre capacity, with a six litre cystern.
I still have the original loo and cystern.
I dont know what an open rim is.
Is it just that the holes are hidden under the deep rim?

Thanks for all your help so far.

You need to check with a mirror.

Could be an old washdown pan with a slot in the rim.

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I have tried checking with a mirror, as the rim is so deep, I see nothing but darkness in the mirror. There is no way of seeing anything up there.

The rim is about two inches deep.

I'm worried, as I have been advised that as my loo is over thirty years old, it has an open rim ??
It has been suggested that my loo is a twelve litre capacity and has a six litre cystern. Both loo and cystern are the originals. Last year, the old ball valve and syphon were taken out of the loo, and was replaced with one of the newer, but more temperamental syphons. I dont know the name of these syphons

I am posting because I no longer know if limescale is the culprit, and I dont want whatever the problem is to turn into a bigger problem.

I also dont know if my cystern is on economy flush and how to put it back to normal flush, as that may be the problem.

I guess I need help in identifying the problem so I can call a plumber and tell him what the problem is.

Sorry for all of the questions, am just a bit worried. Could the weak flushes be building up a blockage. I live in a second floor flat and dont want this to cause any problems for my neighbours below, with thier loos.

thankyou

Can you post a few pics of the bits, include one of the loo and cistern together.

Don't worry about the neighbour unless you flood the place.

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Dont know if this would help you at all, but when i clean under the toilet rim i put on rubber gloves and use ciff cream on an old cloth and use the old elbow grease , since you are worried about a reaction from the other chemicals use bicarbonate of soda the first few times if it is only lime scale it should remove eventually, i personally think all the under rim cleaners can add to a build up. Oh and i through away gloves and rag after one rim clean.