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Door problems on external building (block up? convert?)

 
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retrocircles
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:38 am    Post subject: Door problems on external building (block up? convert?) Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

We currently have an external garage type building in our back garden. The previous owner was an avid carpenter & used it as a workshop, hence the workshop-esque look about it.

Neither my husband or I have any interest in woodwork, and so we're currently using it as a shed basically. But at 20ft x 10ft it's a rather large shed, and a complete waste of space!

Recently we've found a need for the space, an office. Our business needs to go online only for a year until our new premises are ready next summer. So we need somewhere we can house our stock and I can work from.

The inner is breeze block which we plan to plasterboard etc, but the main problem is the doorway:



The door is chunky wooden construction. Again, made by the avid carpenter who lived here before.



There is nearly an inch gap between the doors, allowing dirt, spiders, slugs and more to enter the building. As a shed that's no problem, but it wouldn't be suitable for the office.





The above is the inside of the door.

So, we're not sure whether to try to convert the door into a better, more sealed door. If so, how would we go about this?

Alternatively, ripping it out, blocking it up and installing a UPVC door. Which would be costly. Again, how would we go about doing that?

We're not sure what the best option is.... any ideas?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:29 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

First off bear in mind that most users of his forum would love more workshop space, so you may be presenting an anathema to them.
If you are seriously going to use this as an office for the best part of a year and you are going to the expense of boarding , plastering etc?
Then I would rip them out, block up and put in a cheap pvcu door.
I am assuming that you are having a builder in to do the boarding etc? If so I would get a price for the additional work (pretty simple, but may be beyond a lot of diyers? And you haven't given any indication of yours or your husbands capabilities?
Hope this helps.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 11:30 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I agree.
Even a full size PVC unit to fit the hole, dark or frosted glass with a door built into it.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 10:45 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Your quickest and by far cheapest option would be to fix a wooden cover strip down the face of the master door so when its closed it overlaps the slave door.

A length of timber 2.1m long by say 75mm wide and 25mm thick would cost no more than £10 from your local build centre or alsfords. Just secure in place with screws and its job done.

Are the doors fairly sturdy & secure as they are? If not, then fixing some plywood onto the door frame work on the inside could strengthen them, you could even put some insulation in between. If you opt to do this too, then 12mm ply would cost you around £18 - £22 a sheet.

All in all you could do the whole job yourself for under £100. The tasks to do are well within the capabilities of d.i.y.

Your doors look like they will withstand a years worth of daily use easily, so replacing them at this stage isn't really necessary. Once you and your hubby have used it as you intend, then think about what you want to do with it?

Hope this helps.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:27 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Ive been thinking about the cost if you opt for having tradesmen in.

You can expect it to take 1.5 - 2 weeks to do everything, rip out, new wall, upvc door, dryline and decorate + lights and sockets. Maybe even a skip.

2 good builders who may well charge upto £200 a day per person, your looking at around £2000 for labour, and materials on top, could be another £700 or more.

Any quotes you get are going to be around £3,000 as a guide.

If you are prepared to spend this kind of money you will get a very good job done, assuming you use a reputable builder.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 4:30 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

If its ready next summer, id leave it like it is, as someone above suggested, fit a closure stripdown the outside, some 6mm ply and a bit of insulation on the inside.

If your using it everyday, id expect a small portable heater in there during the winter period, perhaps on a timer to help keep frosts and damp at bay.

You dont mention what your stock is, could it be damaged by a slight bit of moist air?

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:21 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Please excuse the maths on my second post, left it too long to edit.

£2,000 should be £4,000 & £3,000 should be £5,000
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