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mstar
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 Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 11:16 am Post subject: pine door what do i do? |
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hi guys i purchased a pine interior door from homebase and its its naked form. I wanted to paint it but i wanted to check if i am thinking correctly i wanted to ask the mrs for the 2 options...i wanted to check if i am doing this right...
option 1 - paint white
1. Use a combined primer/undercoat paint first over the door.
2. leave over night ?
3. paint with white paint for wood on top.
(money is a bit tight so what would happen if i just do number 3?)
option 2 - varnish door so i have a oak-ish colour
i am clueless wot to do, i gather this be a more expensive option to do?
any help?? |
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dewaltdisney
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| Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 11:27 am Post subject: |
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Cheapest is a varnish type finish as it is just one pot to buy. A white wood finish needs knotting, primer, undercoat and topcoats. sandpaper for both methods is necessary also.
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thescruff
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| Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 11:32 am Post subject: |
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If it's pine and moneys tight, why do anything 
People pay good money to get paint off pine doors, and I've probably upset ever painter within a hundred mile 
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mstar
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| Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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but it looks really cheapo thats why need to paint or varnish it  |
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| Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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| mstar wrote: |
| but it looks really cheapo thats why need to paint or varnish it |
if you varnish it it will just look like a cheap door but varnished 
if you give it a second coat it will start to hide the underlying grain and knots
what exactly do you mean by cheap looking!!!! 
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mstar
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| Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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sorry i meant in its bare whitish pine look with knots by the cheap look.
whats the process for varnishing a door? what you guys reccomend as a better finish |
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dewaltdisney
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I would suggest that you ignore Scruffy's advice on this one as you have to seal these doors as they will warp with climatic change. This is a quick grown timber and it tends to let water evaporate and absorb it much more than hard woods. This leads to all sorts of movement so a good seal helps stop this absorption/evaporation cycle giving better stability.
If you want to do it cheaply then a stained polyurethane varnish will do the job for a few quid. The trick is sanding back to prepare and also between coats. Rub it well down and clean the dust down. The first coat will bring the grain up so water the mix down with a bit of white spirit. Give a good rub down with fine sand paper and put on successive coats. The more coats the better it will look.
Yes, a white paint finish will look good too but the pots of paint will cost more money than you say wish to spend at this time.
Good luck with the job chum
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thescruff
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| Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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I would agree with you DWD if it were outside.
I don't really think climate change is going to happen too much indoors, other than maybe the bathroom
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owen
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| thescruff wrote: |
I would agree with you DWD if it were outside.
I don't really think climate change is going to happen too much indoors, other than maybe the bathroom |
you obviously have never fitted one of these cheap shite doors, there's a good chance it will be banana shaped within a week if it isn't treated with something, indoors or not. |
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thescruff
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| Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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How did you guess
That bad are they 
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| oh yes |
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Telmay
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| Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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I'll second that and both sides and all edged should be painted at the same time to prevent this warping they do, even putting the heating on will bend these buggers.
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mstar
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is there a particular seal paint i have to use? (brand be good so i can get the right one)
also i take it the sealer is a clear variety? so i just paint it white or varnish it a oak-ish colour later?? |
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dewaltdisney
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:41 am Post subject: |
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BnQ do their own range for about £5 or £6. The colour is mixed in with the varnish so you build up colour with the coats. They do a range of colours. Also you could go for clear finish in which case go for Dulux Hard Glaze finish. You can have Matt, Silk or Gloss. The matt looks good on pine.
It really depends on your current decoration style as to what finish will go best. If in doubt do it in clear.
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