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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2019 8:53 pm 
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Hi, I'm not too sure if this is the right place for.this query. I recently took delivery of a hybrid vehicle that takes an electric charge via an adapter intended to be connected via a 3 pin plug. Typically the charge lead is just too short to reach from the power socket in my porch to the vehicle. I was thinking about getting a heavy duty extension lead from Screwfix tomorrow until I can get a proper outlet installed next week. I suppose it's a question for the professionals but can anyone see an issue with me connecting the charger lead to an extension lead?

I saw this which has purchases from people that have used it for their EV https://www.screwfix.com/p/masterplug-1 ... -10m/44635

Hopefully someone can shed some light on this and maybe put my mind at rest. Thanks!


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Without specific details of the charger, it is not possible to give a definitive answer, but what I will say for sure is don't use that lead with it coiled up anywhere. If its a bit too long run it back and forth, not coiled. Check it's temperature as well, it should be cool enough to pick up at all times.

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Thanks, so it states in the manual that it's a Type 2 Charger. Service Entrance: 120/230V, upto 16A, 2-wire with safety ground.

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Type 2 charging may be done with a normal 13A socket. The charging lead has the RCD and any control gear required built into it.


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OnlyMe wrote:
Type 2 charging may be done with a normal 13A socket. The charging lead has the RCD and any control gear required built into it.


Yeah sure. The only problem is that the original lead is too short, hence the query over the extension lead?


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Those 'general specs' are useless. "Up to 16A....." can mean 1A (250 watts) or 16 A (4,000 watts) and any amount in between.

There should be actual current consumption figures (or even a VA rating) that will determine the type and length of cable you can use (the longer the cable, the heavier [i.e. cross-sectional area] the cable cores need to be).

Personally I'd use a longer cable but NOT via a plug extension - I'd remove the shorter cable and fit the longer one directly.

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Did you not read the info that come with the car, a charge lead with a 3 pin plug will take 14+ hours to charge (4-6 hours if it is one of the new phev's with 30 mile range on battery), I suggest you get a proper charger fitted

The information would of come with the car regarding charging and a option to purchase the charger and cable at the time of order assuming you purchased it new

what make and model is the car ? most manufactures have deals in place for installation of a charger

It may also benefit you to know about the various charging networks Aswell

Electric Vehicle Man (was Electric Leaf Man) is a good source of knowledge

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Bob225 wrote:
Did you not read the info that come with the car, a charge lead with a 3 pin plug will take 14+ hours to charge (4-6 hours if it is one of the new phev's with 30 mile range on battery), I suggest you get a proper charger fitted


Thanks Bob, it states in the manual the type 2 charger supplied will charge the vehicle in 3 hours, which I'm confident of. I'm not questioning the amount of time it takes to charge. I think we run the risk of getting too far away from the original query over the use of a suitable extension lead here.


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3 hours sounds dubious, is the battery only 36Ah?


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JacksDaddy wrote:
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Type 2 charging may be done with a normal 13A socket. The charging lead has the RCD and any control gear required built into it.


Yeah sure. The only problem is that the original lead is too short, hence the query over the extension lead?


Yes. And some else answered it correctly.


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I would not run it off a extension lead, if the connection eg. plug and socket is outside it needs to be IP rated, Is the charger its self ip rated ?

You have purchased a new car, why scrimp on £300-400 to get the charging setup right


3 hours is a fast charge on most phev's @ 11 or 22kwh, a 3 pin plug will give you 3kwh

What make and model of car ?


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