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PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 1:54 pm 
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Hi,

I have a plug socket in my loft which isn't used and I want to move it down in to my bedroom, as I have only one socket in my bedroom which is already a spur-ed from somewhere. We are having the house rewired next summer but I need a bedside plug socket for the meantime.

The socket in the loft is spur-ed directly from a plug socket in a cupboard down stairs. To keep things simple I plan on joining a length of new cable to the existing cable via a junction box and then running the cable under the loft boards straight down into my room and refitting the plug socket there. I wont be placing the cable in the walls as we are having the hose re-wired next summer.

Couple of questions on the above

1) Is this legal?
2) I'm not sure what sort of junction box I would need, can anyone recommend something?
3) Is my proposed method correct?

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As a temporary solution you could just create yourself an extension cord really and put a plug into the socket in the loft and run the cable down to a wall mounted socket on the wall in your bedroom. If as you say you are getting everything re-wired next year I am sure it would do the job fine, just be careful not to overload it, keep it light for things like a lamp, phone charger etc. Don't be silly and run an electric heater or something.


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Better to replace the unused loft socket for a FCU, 13 A fuse then you can add as many sockets as you like (load must not exceed 13 A though.

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My first thoughts are why is there a socket in the loft? Often they are fitted to lighting circuits so a TV booster can be plugged in, so step one if find out what supplies the socket, if off lights then forget it, you should not really have a socket off the lights, but since many TV boosters are built into a plug often no option but use 13A rather than a 5 amp socket which would be within the rules.

If 13A socket is from a 16 to 32 amp supply then no real problem using it, if over 20 amp then you may need a FCU to ensure automatic disconnection of the supply should it become overloaded.


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ericmark wrote:
you should not really have a socket off the lights, but since many TV boosters are built into a plug often no option but use 13A rather than a 5 amp socket which would be within the rules


What rule that says you cannot have a 13A socket on a lighting circuit?


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OnlyMe wrote:
ericmark wrote:
you should not really have a socket off the lights, but since many TV boosters are built into a plug often no option but use 13A rather than a 5 amp socket which would be within the rules


What rule that says you cannot have a 13A socket on a lighting circuit?

314.1 Every installation shall be divided into circuits, as necessary, to:
(i) avoid hazards and minimize inconvenience in the event of a fault
(ii) facilitate safe inspection, testing and maintenance (see also Section 537)
(iii) take account of danger that may arise from the failure of a single circuit such as a lighting circuit
(iv) reduce the possibility of unwanted tripping of RCDs due to excessive protective conductor currents produced by equipment in normal operation
(v) mitigate the effects of electromagnetic interferences (EMI)
(vi) prevent the indirect energizing of a circuit intended to be isolated.

Having a 13A socket on a lighting circuit increases the risk of unwanted automatic disconnection of the supply to that circuit and so dangers associated with unexpected loss of light.

We do have rules to reduce this problem, one place I worked it was instant dismissal if caught without your head lamp, use of emergency lights and windows can mean even if the lights fail there is no real danger, but this needs a risk assessment and consideration on how to reduce the risk, so yes no blanket rule to say no 13A socket on the lights, but 314.1 (iii) says you must take into account what happens if some one overloads the lights.


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