DIY Forum

DIY Forum/Home improvement advice

 

 

A-Z CONTENTS | ARCADE | DISCLAIMER | DIRECTORY | DIY VIDEO | HOME | SAFETY FIRST | FORUM RULES

It is currently Fri May 25, 2012 9:16 am
Visit Buck and Hickman


Time zone: Europe/London [ DST ]




 

Post new topic This topic is locked, you cannot edit posts or make further replies.  [ 11 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 5:04 pm 
Offline
Newly registered Member

Joined: Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:41 pm
Posts: 48
Location: Rotherham, South Yorkshire
Has thanked: 0 times
Been thanked: 0 times
Happy new year all!

A friend of mine has had a new conservatory put on the back of his bungalow and now wants to know if we can skim over what used to be the external rendered wall to make it look like a proper internal wall? I am guessing that it will definitley need an undercoat plaster prior to skimming as it's quite rough? Would i be best using bonding after a few coats of PVA or hardwall for the undercoat?

Any help is most appreciated...... :scratch:

_________________
It's a dirty horse but someone's got to ride it


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 6:17 pm 
Offline
pro plasterer

Joined: Wed Jan 31, 2007 7:01 pm
Posts: 398
Has thanked: 0 times
Been thanked: 0 times
Is it painted? If it is, i personally would go for a bonding agent such as wickes plaster bonding agent rather than pva on this one. Then give it a tight coat of bonding and skim it when the bonding has set

Or,

dot and dab plasterboard then skim it. :thumbright:
Hope this helps you


Top
 Profile  
 
You may not be able to see the full post including pictures unless you register or log in

 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:25 pm 
Offline
Senior Member

Joined: Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:29 am
Posts: 137
Location: Newcastle upon tyne
Has thanked: 1 times
Been thanked: 0 times
i would dot and dab then skim. good luck

_________________
You'll never know if you don't ask.......or try and then balls it up and learn by the last balls up, but still...best ask!


Top
 Profile  
 
You may not be able to see the full post including pictures unless you register or log in

 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:30 am 
Offline
Newly registered Member

Joined: Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:41 pm
Posts: 48
Location: Rotherham, South Yorkshire
Has thanked: 0 times
Been thanked: 0 times
Hi Andy / Steve, yes it is painted so I will take your advice and use the bonding agent for this one instead of PVA. I thought about dot and dab but think this will be the easier option on this particular wall.....hard to explain without the use of a picture, I'll try and post one when I've finished to see what you guys think.

Thanks again for your help, this forum is excellent!

:thumbright:

_________________
It's a dirty horse but someone's got to ride it


Top
 Profile  
 
You may not be able to see the full post including pictures unless you register or log in

 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 7:05 pm 
Offline
Newly registered Member

Joined: Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:57 pm
Posts: 4
Has thanked: 0 times
Been thanked: 0 times
HI guys, sorry to tag onto this question, but i have a very similar job coming up which i'm doing for a friend and i just need a bit of advice if possible as i'm fairly new to plastering and have only really done reskimming and bond/skim jobs on artex ceilings up to now.

My job is the same scenario as in the original question but in my case the wall hasn't previously been rendered or painted, it is just exposed red brick.
With it just being red brick, would you use hardwall or bonding? I'm thinking hardwall but i'm not entirely sure, and would you still pva first?
Also when applying hardwall, would you give it 2 coats or just one before going over with 2 coat multifinnish?

plasterboard would be easier i know but my mate really doesn't want it.

thanks for any pointers you can give me. :thumbright:


Top
 Profile  
 
You may not be able to see the full post including pictures unless you register or log in

 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:00 pm 
Offline
pro plasterer

Joined: Wed Jan 31, 2007 7:01 pm
Posts: 398
Has thanked: 0 times
Been thanked: 0 times
Hi andy.

Use hardwall on red brick.
What i do is float the whole wall and because its red brick it will pull in very quick. Now go over the top of it with more hardwall. Rule off flat, fill hollows and rule again and leave it, when its firmed off, devil float it. When set (dark) skim it. No pva needed because theres no suction.

hope this helps :thumbright:


Top
 Profile  
 
You may not be able to see the full post including pictures unless you register or log in

 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:17 pm 
Offline
Senior Member

Joined: Mon Jul 02, 2007 12:55 pm
Posts: 133
Has thanked: 0 times
Been thanked: 0 times
Big D make sure the render is sound though first mate, make sure the render hasnt failed.


Top
 Profile  
 
You may not be able to see the full post including pictures unless you register or log in

 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:39 am 
Offline
Newly registered Member

Joined: Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:41 pm
Posts: 48
Location: Rotherham, South Yorkshire
Has thanked: 0 times
Been thanked: 0 times
Hi LUFC,

yeah cheers, I checked the render first and it looked in pretty sound condition. We did most of the work last weekend, just got one small area left to skim that we didn't have time to finish as this job took a lot longer than I first thought due to the height of the wall and angles etc...I will post a picture when finished.

Thanks for the help, much appreciated mate. :thumbright:

_________________
It's a dirty horse but someone's got to ride it


Top
 Profile  
 
You may not be able to see the full post including pictures unless you register or log in

 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:09 pm 
Offline
Newly registered Member

Joined: Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:57 pm
Posts: 4
Has thanked: 0 times
Been thanked: 0 times
Andy-P, Thanks for the advice, its much appreciated. :thumbright:


Top
 Profile  
 
You may not be able to see the full post including pictures unless you register or log in

 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:38 pm 
Offline
Senior Member

Joined: Mon Jul 02, 2007 12:55 pm
Posts: 133
Has thanked: 0 times
Been thanked: 0 times
Big D wrote:
Hi LUFC,

yeah cheers, I checked the render first and it looked in pretty sound condition. We did most of the work last weekend, just got one small area left to skim that we didn't have time to finish as this job took a lot longer than I first thought due to the height of the wall and angles etc...I will post a picture when finished.

Thanks for the help, much appreciated mate. :thumbright:


looking forward to seeing the photos


Top
 Profile  
 
You may not be able to see the full post including pictures unless you register or log in

 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:08 pm 
Offline
Newly registered Member

Joined: Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:41 pm
Posts: 48
Location: Rotherham, South Yorkshire
Has thanked: 0 times
Been thanked: 0 times
Sorry...no photos, haven't got the software to get the pictures off my phone onto the PC!

Thanks for the advice though it looks great now it's finished..although it took me a day more than I originally thought due to the height of the wall and angles involved... I had a 6ft high platform but still couldn't reach the top of the wall, I ended up having to finish the top using a 20ft ladder which took ages to keep moving it! Still I suppose you live and learn!

By the way, thanks for the tip on using the Wickes bond it....worked a treat on the render and I could even see which parts I had covered as it was a pink colour! Very good :grin:

_________________
It's a dirty horse but someone's got to ride it


Top
 Profile  
 
You may not be able to see the full post including pictures unless you register or log in

Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic This topic is locked, you cannot edit posts or make further replies.  [ 11 posts ] 


Similar topics
   

Time zone: Europe/London [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  


News News Site map Site map SitemapIndex SitemapIndex RSS Feed RSS Feed Channel list Channel list
ultimatehandyman privacy policy

Contact

 

Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group

phpBB SEO

 

Diy forum - Decking - plastering - Plumbing - DIY - Tiling